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Posted: August 22, 2020, 6:21 PM Post
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Not directly about football but likely the result of canceling fall football season, Iowa has cut men's gymnastics, men's and women's swimming and diving, and men's tennis after the 20-21 school year.

Those sports combined to produce $559k in revenue but accounted for $4.8m in expenses.


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Posted: August 24, 2020, 7:08 AM Post
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Not directly about football but likely the result of canceling fall football season, Iowa has cut men's gymnastics, men's and women's swimming and diving, and men's tennis after the 20-21 school year.

Those sports combined to produce $559k in revenue but accounted for $4.8m in expenses.


Big deal. Who cares about non-essentials like this?


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Posted: August 24, 2020, 8:20 AM Post
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As a spots lover of all kinds it’s hard to see something produce $600k but lose $4.2 million. I can kind of see why people get upset about sports and the overall cost of it.

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Posted: August 24, 2020, 8:50 AM Post
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As a spots lover of all kinds it’s hard to see something produce $600k but lose $4.2 million. I can kind of see why people get upset about sports and the overall cost of it.


I think the costs for the ancillary sports rose along with revenue for the big money sports. They had money to burn.

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Posted: August 24, 2020, 10:25 AM Post
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I'm fine with it, the scholarship sports model needs to go the way of the dinosaur. Better that the money goes to paying revenue-generating athletes than subsidizing predominately rich kids that could easily afford tuition.


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I'm fine with it, the scholarship sports model needs to go the way of the dinosaur. Better that the money goes to paying revenue-generating athletes than subsidizing predominately rich kids that could easily afford tuition.


Who says they are rich kids. And why is it that money should go to revenue producers. This is suppose to be college, not Wall Street......and I love Wall Street.


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Posted: August 24, 2020, 3:01 PM Post
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Mr Southpaw said:
owbc said:
I'm fine with it, the scholarship sports model needs to go the way of the dinosaur. Better that the money goes to paying revenue-generating athletes than subsidizing predominately rich kids that could easily afford tuition.


Who says they are rich kids. And why is it that money should go to revenue producers. This is suppose to be college, not Wall Street......and I love Wall Street.


The whole college cheating scandal from 2019 is what first turned me onto this, but when you think about it, there aren't exactly a ton of kids from low-income backgrounds mastering sports like tennis or swimming well enough to earn a D1 scholarship.

Today, fewer than one in seven students receiving athletic scholarships across all Division I sports come from families in which neither parent went to college. Farrey calls this the slow-motion “gentrification” of college sports.

This process starts in youth and high-school sports. Both historically served as a pipeline to flagship universities for low-income kids. But when they’re shut out from pricey travel leagues and the expensive coaching that early specialists receive, lower-income kids are denied not only the physical benefits of playing sports, but also the jackpot that is college recruitment and Division I and II scholarships


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Posted: August 24, 2020, 3:04 PM Post
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A football field won't fit in Miller Park. That was big news when they built it.


I believe it can. It hosts soccer games and well there was this in 2009.


One thing to note is that the soccer pitch was not regulation size. Football can fit, however, because the field is narrower and can use more of the foul territory near the Brewers' dugout.

Miller Park cannot accommodate a World Cup-size pitch, which is between 110 and 120 yards long and between 70 and 80 yards wide. Boettcher said the field would be 109 yards long and 66 yards wide, which is approved by Major League Soccer as sufficient for a "friendly" or an exhibition match.


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Posted: August 24, 2020, 3:26 PM Post
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football field is technically 120 yards long including the end zones. And you probably need another 10 - 20 yards at least on top of that. They didn't have the excess at Wrigley the one year Northwestern played there and each team had to go towards the same end zone.

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Posted: August 24, 2020, 6:08 PM Post
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The whole college cheating scandal from 2019 is what first turned me onto this, but when you think about it, there aren't exactly a ton of kids from low-income backgrounds mastering sports like tennis or swimming well enough to earn a D1 scholarship.

Today, fewer than one in seven students receiving athletic scholarships across all Division I sports come from families in which neither parent went to college. Farrey calls this the slow-motion “gentrification” of college sports.

This process starts in youth and high-school sports. Both historically served as a pipeline to flagship universities for low-income kids. But when they’re shut out from pricey travel leagues and the expensive coaching that early specialists receive, lower-income kids are denied not only the physical benefits of playing sports, but also the jackpot that is college recruitment and Division I and II scholarships


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ts/597121/

How do you reconcile that with Title IX? Pretty much the only profitable sports are football and men's basketball, on a good year maybe men's hockey. How do you explain 100% of scholarships going to men and none to women?


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Posted: August 25, 2020, 7:41 AM Post
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https://www.press-citizen.com/story/spo ... 408170001/


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Posted: August 25, 2020, 2:11 PM Post
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LouisEly said:
owbc said:
The whole college cheating scandal from 2019 is what first turned me onto this, but when you think about it, there aren't exactly a ton of kids from low-income backgrounds mastering sports like tennis or swimming well enough to earn a D1 scholarship.

Today, fewer than one in seven students receiving athletic scholarships across all Division I sports come from families in which neither parent went to college. Farrey calls this the slow-motion “gentrification” of college sports.

This process starts in youth and high-school sports. Both historically served as a pipeline to flagship universities for low-income kids. But when they’re shut out from pricey travel leagues and the expensive coaching that early specialists receive, lower-income kids are denied not only the physical benefits of playing sports, but also the jackpot that is college recruitment and Division I and II scholarships


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ts/597121/

How do you reconcile that with Title IX? Pretty much the only profitable sports are football and men's basketball, on a good year maybe men's hockey. How do you explain 100% of scholarships going to men and none to women?


Obviously it has to be a 50/50 split. I'm just saying the whole college scholarship athletics business has gotten way over-inflated, many of the non-revenue sports can be club sports instead of scholarship.


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Posted: August 25, 2020, 3:21 PM Post
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I'm just saying the whole college scholarship athletics business has gotten way over-inflated, many of the non-revenue sports can be club sports instead of scholarship.


I would agree. I talk with way too many parents of high school kids that just flippantly throw out the hope that their kid gets an athletic scholarship. I don't think it's because they overestimate the athletic ability of their child but because they seem to think scholarships are plentiful and available everywhere. Pretty much none of them know that there are no athletic scholarships at D3 and D2 scholarships don't cover much.


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Posted: August 26, 2020, 1:47 PM Post
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I don't believe the Badgers will be playing in WI if the winter schedule happens. I don't see Miller Park as an option. I think they will be playing in either Indianapolis Minneapolis or Detroit.

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Posted: August 26, 2020, 4:15 PM Post
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I wonder if Mark A would do a little construction to make this a reality? Not even sure it’s possible but it wouldn’t be adding a crazy amount of room to really make it work.

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Posted: August 28, 2020, 12:49 PM Post
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Posted: August 28, 2020, 2:09 PM Post
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the Big Ten will only play if certain benchmarks related to the coronavirus — such as transmission rates, testing capacity and availability, and testing accuracy — are met in each of the 11 states that are home to the league’s 14 schools


I'll laugh so hard if Nebraska and Iowa end up being the only states that fail to meet the criteria.


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Posted: August 28, 2020, 2:14 PM Post
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Big10 AD's, administrators, and conference officials: "We're going to lose how much money if we don't play!? Well, then I guess we're playing."


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Posted: August 29, 2020, 2:26 PM Post
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I just didn't see the rush to cancel two weeks ago. Should've moved back to late Sept (easy to do with the shortened schedules) and then waited to see what happens once schools start. Really a decision wouldn't need to be made until mid Sept then. The new quick test approved was a big help that could help make this happen.


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Posted: August 30, 2020, 2:17 AM Post
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Big10 AD's, administrators, and conference officials: "We're going to lose how much money if we don't play!? Well, then I guess we're playing."



Do you really believe they were ignorant about the money they'd lose when they announced it initially?


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