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Posted: January 14, 2020, 6:55 PM Post
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IF..... IF this allegation turns out to be proven to be true... just give that school the death penalty.


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Posted: January 14, 2020, 9:13 PM Post
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Eesh. I agree, if that's true Penn State better be seeing Armageddon


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Posted: January 15, 2020, 6:40 AM Post
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If it’s a single complaint, I doubt it gets any mileage. My guess is the player had a hard time adjusting to college and wanted to force an immediate transfer without looking like a flop. UWGB men’s basketball had a similar incident 7 years ago and it just turned out the kid wasn’t taking his meds. His mother was an enabler.

If he really got ‘Sandusky’d’ - then yes, death penalty.


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Posted: January 15, 2020, 8:09 PM Post
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The issue isn't whether or not there was hazing - if there is, but nobody tells a university employee (coach, other official) and no university employee is aware of it, then the only people who get in trouble are the people who did the hazing.

The issue is whether or not the coaches or other university officials were informed or observed it and did nothing. That can get the university in major trouble.


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Posted: January 16, 2020, 11:08 AM Post
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Very surprised MSU didn't fire Dantonio. He collected a 4.3 mil retention bonus this week. I would've thought with the scandals, team doing badly, and that 4.3 mil being owed it was the perfect time to let him go. I guess not, MSU continues to go down a classy path on turning a blind eye to all this stuff. If interested, you can find similar stuff for the bball program too. For some reason ESPN doesn't put MSU on blast like they have other situations.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stunning-rep ... 25953.html


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Posted: January 31, 2020, 1:26 PM Post
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This is ummm interesting?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ut-a-year/

I like it and maybe this will help with the super confusing NCAA transfer rules.


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Posted: January 31, 2020, 4:56 PM Post
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Interesting. In general, I support it, but I'm concerned that it could be abused. For example, a school could over-recruit a class (cough... Alabama... cough.... Ohio State... cough... Kentucky) and say we don't have a scholarship for you this year but we will next year, that kid goes to another school for a year, but then leaves to go to the other school after one year. The school he left probably hadn't recruited to fill that scholarship, and then they're short a scholarship player. Not so impactful in football, but could have a big effect on basketball. You could just gut a basketball team with transfers. I'm also concerned about transferring within the same conference.

I might be more in favor of they can transfer once without sitting out, but a) have to spend at least two years at the first school, b) have to sit out a year if it's to a school in the same conference, and c) the exception to a) and b) is if the school they transfer to is within a certain radius (200 miles?) of what is considered their "home". There might also have to be a limit on the number of kids who could transfer into a school in a year to prevent abuse.


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Posted: February 04, 2020, 2:24 PM Post
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tmwiese55 said:
Very surprised MSU didn't fire Dantonio. He collected a 4.3 mil retention bonus this week. I would've thought with the scandals, team doing badly, and that 4.3 mil being owed it was the perfect time to let him go. I guess not, MSU continues to go down a classy path on turning a blind eye to all this stuff. If interested, you can find similar stuff for the bball program too. For some reason ESPN doesn't put MSU on blast like they have other situations.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stunning-rep ... 25953.html


D'antoni resigns today. I'm guessing it was all planned. GEt your 4.3 mil and resign. They don't have to 'fire' him and owe the rest of the contract, he doesn't have to deal with PR of being fired. Probably seems like a good compromise overall. Probably would've made sense to wait until after signing day, but maybe they're not in on anybody left so it doesn't matter.


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Posted: February 04, 2020, 4:48 PM Post
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tmwiese55 said:
tmwiese55 said:
Very surprised MSU didn't fire Dantonio. He collected a 4.3 mil retention bonus this week. I would've thought with the scandals, team doing badly, and that 4.3 mil being owed it was the perfect time to let him go. I guess not, MSU continues to go down a classy path on turning a blind eye to all this stuff. If interested, you can find similar stuff for the bball program too. For some reason ESPN doesn't put MSU on blast like they have other situations.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stunning-rep ... 25953.html


D'antoni resigns today. I'm guessing it was all planned. GEt your 4.3 mil and resign. They don't have to 'fire' him and owe the rest of the contract, he doesn't have to deal with PR of being fired. Probably seems like a good compromise overall. Probably would've made sense to wait until after signing day, but maybe they're not in on anybody left so it doesn't matter.


And like a day before signing day too. Feel bad for those recruits.

Sports radio here reporting he chose to step down rather than be fired.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: April 29, 2020, 7:41 AM Post
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NCAA has approved allowing players to sign endorsement deals as long as the school is not involved in the payments in anyway


http://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor ... dorsements


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Posted: April 29, 2020, 9:54 AM Post
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About time.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: April 29, 2020, 11:06 AM Post
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NCAA has approved allowing players to sign endorsement deals as long as the school is not involved in the payments in anyway


http://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor ... dorsements


From the article:
Ackerman said finding a way to prevent boosters and "overzealous individuals" from using endorsements as a way to pay for athletic performance or recruiting enticements remains one of their chief concerns.

[laughing] Yeah... good luck with that...


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Posted: April 30, 2020, 11:26 AM Post
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I'd be in favor of it, so long as it was capped at something like $50K/year. Let them make enough to live off of (they're on scholarship so they don't have to worry about paying for school) but not an obscene amount that can be abused. Maybe a 50/50 split, with them keeping 50% and 50% going to a fund for all athletes at that school. And let them learn how taxes work.


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Posted: April 30, 2020, 7:00 PM Post
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I think it's pretty terrible news for the following reason. If I'm Nike, and my market research says an endorsement deal for player X will generate a Y amount of revenue if that player attends Tennessee, but will generate Y times 1.2 amount of revenue if that players attends USC (bigger market), then what would stop Nike from offering that player a 750k endorsement deal to attend Tennessee....but it's a 1.0 million dollar endorsement deal if they attend USC instead. Do I see corporations guiding players to certain schools to help their bottom line...absolutely I do.

Of course, the NCAA would act concerned about this...but really they know a system which sends better players to bigger markets and makes bigger winners on average will make bigger money over the long haul.

And I would like to point out that I can say this without bias as a Badger fan, because Wisconsin isn't in the running for those top 10 prospects which are the guys who would be getting these deals from shoe companies (or other big corporations).


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Posted: April 30, 2020, 8:27 PM Post
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I think it's pretty terrible news for the following reason. If I'm Nike, and my market research says an endorsement deal for player X will generate a Y amount of revenue if that player attends Tennessee, but will generate Y times 1.2 amount of revenue if that players attends USC (bigger market), then what would stop Nike from offering that player a 750k endorsement deal to attend Tennessee....but it's a 1.0 million dollar endorsement deal if they attend USC instead. Do I see corporations guiding players to certain schools to help their bottom line...absolutely I do.


Isn't this happening already? At least now it would be out in the open and we can stop pretending all the amateur student athlete nonsense.


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Posted: April 30, 2020, 9:24 PM Post
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JosephC said:
I think it's pretty terrible news for the following reason. If I'm Nike, and my market research says an endorsement deal for player X will generate a Y amount of revenue if that player attends Tennessee, but will generate Y times 1.2 amount of revenue if that players attends USC (bigger market), then what would stop Nike from offering that player a 750k endorsement deal to attend Tennessee....but it's a 1.0 million dollar endorsement deal if they attend USC instead. Do I see corporations guiding players to certain schools to help their bottom line...absolutely I do.


Isn't this happening already? At least now it would be out in the open and we can stop pretending all the amateur student athlete nonsense.


Yeah, believe this is more or less how Sonny Vacarro built his empire.


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Posted: May 01, 2020, 6:14 AM Post
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How many car dealership commercials in Tuscaloosa will now feature the entire Crimson Tide football team? For the record, I think college athletes have the right to profit from their likeness. Just be prepared to see some wild disparity.


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Posted: May 01, 2020, 7:15 AM Post
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JosephC said:
I think it's pretty terrible news for the following reason. If I'm Nike, and my market research says an endorsement deal for player X will generate a Y amount of revenue if that player attends Tennessee, but will generate Y times 1.2 amount of revenue if that players attends USC (bigger market), then what would stop Nike from offering that player a 750k endorsement deal to attend Tennessee....but it's a 1.0 million dollar endorsement deal if they attend USC instead. Do I see corporations guiding players to certain schools to help their bottom line...absolutely I do.

They have said that it cannot be tied to the school in any way. It would still be illegal to steer them towards any school, and my understanding is that they would have to already be enrolled in a school for it to be legal. It would also be illegal for a coach to promise endorsements to a recruit.

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How many car dealership commercials in Tuscaloosa will now feature the entire Crimson Tide football team? For the record, I think college athletes have the right to profit from their likeness. Just be prepared to see some wild disparity.

A lot more car dealerships in Madison, WI, and Austin, TX, and Columbus, OH, and suburban Detroit, MI, and Minneapolis, MN, and Los Angeles, CA, and Miami, FL... a tiny little town of Tuscaloosa will be at a disadvantage.


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Posted: May 01, 2020, 8:03 AM Post
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A lot more car dealerships in Madison, WI, and Austin, TX, and Columbus, OH, and suburban Detroit, MI, and Minneapolis, MN, and Los Angeles, CA, and Miami, FL... a tiny little town of Tuscaloosa will be at a disadvantage.

True, but are those businesses willing to pay an above market rate for endorsements just so their alma mater can benefit? I honestly don’t know, but I think it’s more likely to happen in the football-rabid South.


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Posted: May 01, 2020, 8:29 AM Post
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nodakfan17 said:
LouisEly said:
A lot more car dealerships in Madison, WI, and Austin, TX, and Columbus, OH, and suburban Detroit, MI, and Minneapolis, MN, and Los Angeles, CA, and Miami, FL... a tiny little town of Tuscaloosa will be at a disadvantage.

True, but are those businesses willing to pay an above market rate for endorsements just so their alma mater can benefit? I honestly don’t know, but I think it’s more likely to happen in the football-rabid South.


Its all going to come down to who wants to help their chosen school. Its a great way to hide booster money, which is what the original intent of the Tuscaloosa dealership comment is about. It is already the worst kept secret that a lot of top players are getting paid down here. To the point where its accepted in conversation and not talked about as a conspiracy elsewhere. Now you can flat out make your payments and claim "advertising" as the source.

You also have to remember that the school owns the rights to the college images/jersey so if an advertiser wants to use the logo the school has to sign off on that and get a taste. This only opens up further questions because the appearance is that the school is involved in the payment for likeness to the player.

One question I have not seen is the use of agents. At this point I believe they are still illegal to sign with as a college player until after you are done and moving on to the next level. Are we now going to let players sign with agents to handle their endorsements, social media deals, etc?


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