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Offline homer 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 02, 2020, 3:52 PM Post
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Discuss all your hopes and dreams for Packer draft picks here.

I wonder if they'd pull the trigger on Jonathan Taylor? I wouldn't want him in round 1 but round 2 I'd think about it. I think a lot of their draft decisions will revolve around what they do in free agency.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Offline Ron Robinson's Beard Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 02, 2020, 4:36 PM Post
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With how deep this draft is in WR talent, I could see them trading out of #30, picking up another 2 and maybe an extra 3. Gonna be a ton of great WR talent left in the second round. I think that's the sweet spot this year.

I doubt Taylor lasts until the 2nd round, though. I think he goes somewhere in the early 20s, if not earlier. There's just too much production and speed there for him to last any longer than that.
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Offline JosephC Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 02, 2020, 9:13 PM Post
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The Packer writer at The Athletic posted a full Packer's mock draft and didn't have them taking a WR or an ILB throughout the entire draft. Some of the reader's comments are pretty entertaining.

I am pretty disappointed that so many possible targets at #30 elected to skip important elements of the combine. The ILB's, Queen and Murray, skipped the 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone. Chase Claypool (WR, Notre Dame) probably had the best height/speed combo, but he too skipped the 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone. Wide receivers Tee Higgins and KJ Hamler both skipped just about everything.
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Offline superfly Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 02, 2020, 9:24 PM Post
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Shenault, or trade up for Ruggs.
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Offline wallus Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 02, 2020, 10:37 PM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
I doubt Taylor lasts until the 2nd round, though. I think he goes somewhere in the early 20s, if not earlier. There's just too much production and speed there for him to last any longer than that.


If I were an NFL team, I would be concerned about him fumbling.
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Offline Ron Robinson's Beard Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 7:10 AM Post
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wallus said:
Ron Robinson's Beard said:
I doubt Taylor lasts until the 2nd round, though. I think he goes somewhere in the early 20s, if not earlier. There's just too much production and speed there for him to last any longer than that.


If I were an NFL team, I would be concerned about him fumbling.


He had, what, 15 fumbles in roughly 7 million carries at Wisconsin? I think that concern is pretty extreme nitpicking.
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Offline patrickgpe Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 8:30 AM Post
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I haven't gotten into specific players, but I would love the packers to get a WR and OT early in the draft. Probably need some help at ILB. I would hope that after years of going defense early, the packers give ARod some help during the twilight of his career.
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Offline homer Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 8:38 AM Post
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I'm hopeful they can take care of ILB in free agency. Not sure I want to rely on a rookie there.
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Offline bjkrautk Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 9:35 AM Post
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The Badger fan in me is curious whether they'll go after the ex-Badger linebacker in free agency (Schobert) or if they see Baun as an ILB candidate if he's still on the board at 30.

So long as they've hit their top needs (ILB, WR, G/T -- depending on how they view Billy Turner long-term) between free agency and the first two days of the draft, I'll feel pretty good about this team.
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Offline wallus Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 9:45 AM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
wallus said:
Ron Robinson's Beard said:
I doubt Taylor lasts until the 2nd round, though. I think he goes somewhere in the early 20s, if not earlier. There's just too much production and speed there for him to last any longer than that.


If I were an NFL team, I would be concerned about him fumbling.


He had, what, 15 fumbles in roughly 7 million carries at Wisconsin? I think that concern is pretty extreme nitpicking.


Taylor: 18 fumbles in 926 attempts
Dobbins: 5 fumbles in 725 attempts

I picked these two because they are from the same conference and both ranked about the same. With how important the turnover battle is in the NFL, I would be concerned. If Taylor is there in the 3rd round (not very likely), then go get him. I am never a fan of picking a running back high in the draft.
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Offline homer Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 10:04 AM Post
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I think most NFL coaches think they can coach fumbling out of a guy. Ahman Green was a big time fumbler and then became a very secure ball handler for GB.
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Offline Ron Robinson's Beard Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 10:12 AM Post
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wallus said:

Taylor: 18 fumbles in 926 attempts
Dobbins: 5 fumbles in 725 attempts

I picked these two because they are from the same conference and both ranked about the same. With how important the turnover battle is in the NFL, I would be concerned. If Taylor is there in the 3rd round (not very likely), then go get him. I am never a fan of picking a running back high in the draft.


It's going to be real interesting to see what Dobbins clocks for a 40 time at his pro day March 25. He gives up nearly 20 pounds to Taylor, but is also an incredible athlete who was putting up 4.45-type times coming out of high school. Speed kills in the NFL, though, and some team is going to be enamored with Taylor's 40 time and size enough to make him the first RB off the board. As mentioned above, NFL coaches believe that fumbling is an issue that can be coached out of RBs.
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Offline wallus Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 10:15 AM Post
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I think most NFL coaches think they can coach fumbling out of a guy. Ahman Green was a big time fumbler and then became a very secure ball handler for GB.


Well it did take those coaches 5 seasons to get him to fumble less.

http://www.nfl.com/player/ahmangreen/2500887/careerstats
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Offline CheezWizHed Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 03, 2020, 9:50 PM Post
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A double-dip at WR, a 4th round G/T, a big NT, and a development ILB.

Unless someone drops in our lap, I'd be ok dropping back into the 2nd to pick another top 100 pick also.
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Offline brewcrewdue80 Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 04, 2020, 9:04 PM Post
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The top two needs imo is a Milb and a WR. OL, QB?, S. Double up on WR and Milb.
Re:Baun
Is he any different than Martinez? Any faster?
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Offline bjkrautk Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 04, 2020, 9:56 PM Post
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brewcrewdue80 said:
The top two needs imo is a Milb and a WR. OL, QB?, S. Double up on WR and Milb.
Re:Baun
Is he any different than Martinez? Any faster?


Quick Google says Martinez ran a 4.71 at the combine; Baun ran a 4.65.
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Offline CheezWizHed Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 04, 2020, 10:02 PM Post
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Martinez wasn't a bad MLB. Not special, but not bad. But not someone to spend $10M/year on either.

Martinez and Baun's athletic profiles are eerily similar:
Baun 4.65/7.0/4.31 (40/cone/shuttle)
Mart 4.71/6.98/4.20

with very similar height/weight/hands/arms.

Baun's instincts seem really strong, but I'm not sure I want him in the first round. In the second round, perhaps.
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Offline HiAndTight Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 05, 2020, 11:09 AM Post
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CheezWizHed said:
A double-dip at WR, a 4th round G/T, a big NT, and a development ILB.

Unless someone drops in our lap, I'd be ok dropping back into the 2nd to pick another top 100 pick also.



This makes more sense to me, but one of the Journel Sentinel reports just said that they thought Gute was more likely or at least willing to move up in the 1st round.

I'd personally prioritize OT along with WR'er, regardless what you do with Bulaga. The Packers have a couple tackles who have pretty intriguing upsides right now, but this class is deep at both those positions. So if we could add one of those in the first two rounds without reaching, I'd be happy there.


As for the NT....the Packers normally don't carry two NT's. Would you be in favor of kicking Clark out to DE in that event or are you just saying just add someone who can help defend the run on the DL?
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Offline CheezWizHed Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 05, 2020, 11:44 AM Post
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Ironically, I just posted that in Fackrell thread. Pick up (draft or FA) a starting NT, move Clark to DE in base. For obvious passing downs, Clark moved to NT. Clark-NT-Lowry with Keke backing up DE and Lancaster at backup NT is a decent DL and big improvement over last year.

Conversely, You could get a new starting DE and keep Clark at NT, but that would seem more expensive.

A front of Smith-Clark-NT-Lowry would be really hard to run against without giving up any pass rush to do so.
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Offline Ron Robinson's Beard Re: 2020 Packers Draft Thread
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Posted: March 05, 2020, 11:51 AM Post
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CheezWizHed said:
Ironically, I just posted that in Fackrell thread. Pick up (draft or FA) a starting NT, move Clark to DE in base. For obvious passing downs, Clark moved to NT. Clark-NT-Lowry with Keke backing up DE and Lancaster at backup NT is a decent DL and big improvement over last year.

Conversely, You could get a new starting DE and keep Clark at NT, but that would seem more expensive.

A front of Smith-Clark-NT-Lowry would be really hard to run against without giving up any pass rush to do so.


I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Dontari Poe makes a ton of sense. Would be a similar situation to a decade ago when the Packers had Pickett and Raji up front.
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