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Posted: April 19, 2020, 10:37 PM Post
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Run it myself a few times, for the first time this is the result after having both Murray and Queen gone. Plus all the top tier WR's picked as well!

30 Ezra Cleveland OT Boise State

62 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR Colorado

94 Van Jefferson WRFlorida

136 Justin Strnad LB Wake Forest

175 David Woodward LB Utah State

192 Nate Stanley QB Iowa

208 Benito Jones IDL Ole Miss

209 Jake Hanson IOL Oregon

236 Kindle Vildor CB Georgia Southern

242 Jacob Breeland TE Oregon

No major WOW's, but good choices with solid value. Fills some holes and creates a little competition. Would prefer Murray or Queen at that #30 pick though! When the last pick is made, I'd be on the phone with Reggie Corbin RB Illinois and Gabe Cervenka G Clemson and offer contracts as UDFA's. Not in one of those simulations, has those two been drafted.


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Posted: April 20, 2020, 12:34 PM Post
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Looking at Twitter today, there seems to be a growing number of idiots out there hoping that the draft gets hacked. It's almost like they don't realize that if any team gets hacked, the NFL will shut the whole draft down so fast the viewers won't know what hit them. This is the first real live sports thing happening in 5 weeks. I've never looked so forward to a draft in my life. If it gets shut down because some idiot wants to see a GIF of Spongebob pop up as the Jaguars are announcing their pick, I'm gonna be pissed.

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Posted: April 20, 2020, 1:40 PM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
Looking at Twitter today, there seems to be a growing number of idiots out there hoping that the draft gets hacked. It's almost like they don't realize that if any team gets hacked, the NFL will shut the whole draft down so fast the viewers won't know what hit them. This is the first real live sports thing happening in 5 weeks. I've never looked so forward to a draft in my life. If it gets shut down because some idiot wants to see a GIF of Spongebob pop up as the Jaguars are announcing their pick, I'm gonna be pissed.

Yeah, like say a team didn’t turn in its pick on time, and other teams started drafting ahead of them, we’d know something was up. [smile]


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Posted: April 20, 2020, 3:48 PM Post
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This article lists five positions that the Packers are "almost guaranteed" to take a player at:

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/19/5-positions-the-packers-are-almost-guaranteed-to-take-in-2020-draft/

Fun fact - it's the same five positions I have the Packers taking a player in the first five rounds
Fun fact II - who would have guessed that the Packers have drafted a defensive lineman every year since 1985?


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Posted: April 20, 2020, 4:07 PM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
Looking at Twitter today, there seems to be a growing number of idiots out there hoping that the draft gets hacked. It's almost like they don't realize that if any team gets hacked, the NFL will shut the whole draft down so fast the viewers won't know what hit them. This is the first real live sports thing happening in 5 weeks. I've never looked so forward to a draft in my life. If it gets shut down because some idiot wants to see a GIF of Spongebob pop up as the Jaguars are announcing their pick, I'm gonna be pissed.

Doesn't need to get hacked, sounds like they're going to screw it up themselves:

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/nfl-draft-2020-packers/2020/4/20/21228321/nfl-draft-2020-preparatory-mock-draft-riddled-technical-problems-bandwidth-mute-save-us-children

Last thing we need is 50M people streaming movies Thursday night hogging all of the bandwidth. Hopefully so many people will be watching it that bandwidth usage will plummet.

Oh, and hit the damn mute button. You can control that as the host, even if the participants forget to mute themselves.


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Posted: April 20, 2020, 4:08 PM Post
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All right, here's the picks - assuming no trades:

#1 (30) - Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma or Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
Either would transform the team - and if Christian Kirksey can stay healthy, it would make for a dynamic linebacking corps.

#2 (62) - Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado or Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
Big, powerful wide out with a lot of upside (but still raw), or the best TE in the draft. Either would work well.

#3 (94) - Tyler Biadasz, IOL, Wisconsin
Nice to have a Badger on the team. Biadasz could start as rookie. Probably not a ton of upside on him, but he'd contribute immediately.

There's a good chance (more than likely) all my guys are gone by the time we pick. But we have to operate on a little faith. [smile]


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Posted: April 20, 2020, 7:19 PM Post
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All right, here's the picks - assuming no trades:

#1 (30) - Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma or Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
Either would transform the team - and if Christian Kirksey can stay healthy, it would make for a dynamic linebacking corps.

#2 (62) - Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado or Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
Big, powerful wide out with a lot of upside (but still raw), or the best TE in the draft. Either would work well.

#3 (94) - Tyler Biadasz, IOL, Wisconsin
Nice to have a Badger on the team. Biadasz could start as rookie. Probably not a ton of upside on him, but he'd contribute immediately.

There's a good chance (more than likely) all my guys are gone by the time we pick. But we have to operate on a little faith. [smile]


I saw a mock that had the Packers taking Biadasz... in the first round.


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Posted: April 20, 2020, 10:02 PM Post
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reillymcshane said:
All right, here's the picks - assuming no trades:

#1 (30) - Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma or Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
Either would transform the team - and if Christian Kirksey can stay healthy, it would make for a dynamic linebacking corps.

#2 (62) - Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado or Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
Big, powerful wide out with a lot of upside (but still raw), or the best TE in the draft. Either would work well.

#3 (94) - Tyler Biadasz, IOL, Wisconsin
Nice to have a Badger on the team. Biadasz could start as rookie. Probably not a ton of upside on him, but he'd contribute immediately.

There's a good chance (more than likely) all my guys are gone by the time we pick. But we have to operate on a little faith. [smile]

I’d be ecstatic . I love claypool in the 2nd but it doesn’t seem like he will be around. If they get Kmet in the 2nd and Cepheus in the 4th even better.


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Posted: April 20, 2020, 10:55 PM Post
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wallus said:
reillymcshane said:
All right, here's the picks - assuming no trades:

#1 (30) - Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma or Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
Either would transform the team - and if Christian Kirksey can stay healthy, it would make for a dynamic linebacking corps.

#2 (62) - Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado or Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
Big, powerful wide out with a lot of upside (but still raw), or the best TE in the draft. Either would work well.

#3 (94) - Tyler Biadasz, IOL, Wisconsin
Nice to have a Badger on the team. Biadasz could start as rookie. Probably not a ton of upside on him, but he'd contribute immediately.

There's a good chance (more than likely) all my guys are gone by the time we pick. But we have to operate on a little faith. [smile]


I saw a mock that had the Packers taking Biadasz... in the first round.


I saw Biadasz in the first round early on in several mocks, but he has steadily slid down. I think he just didn't wow anyone at the combine, and he's seen more as a 'safe' pick without a lot of upside. Most drafts I see him at now are in the 3rd round.


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Posted: April 21, 2020, 6:31 AM Post
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reillymcshane said:
All right, here's the picks - assuming no trades:

#1 (30) - Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma or Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
Either would transform the team - and if Christian Kirksey can stay healthy, it would make for a dynamic linebacking corps.

#2 (62) - Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado or Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
Big, powerful wide out with a lot of upside (but still raw), or the best TE in the draft. Either would work well.

#3 (94) - Tyler Biadasz, IOL, Wisconsin
Nice to have a Badger on the team. Biadasz could start as rookie. Probably not a ton of upside on him, but he'd contribute immediately.

There's a good chance (more than likely) all my guys are gone by the time we pick. But we have to operate on a little faith. [smile]

I’d be ecstatic . I love claypool in the 2nd but it doesn’t seem like he will be around. If they get Kmet in the 2nd and Cepheus in the 4th even better.


I'd be thrilled as well.

I'm increasingly at the point where I want a trade down to grab an extra 3rd. I don't think taking the 5-6 WR off the board, when the talent/value of 5-10 at WR is fairly deep, is the best value at 30. If Queen and Murray are gone as they probably will be, and if you're not a fan of Jones or Cleveland, trade back and go WR/OT/TE with your 2nds and own 3rd, and use the 2nd third to gram Fromm, Hurts. etc. if you're legitimately interested in drafting a QB.


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Posted: April 21, 2020, 7:59 AM Post
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I just don't want Kmet in the 1st. I have a feeling Gutey will trade down and accumulate picks. Maybe not the 1st rounder though.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: April 21, 2020, 8:19 AM Post
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The Athletic have posted their consensus board, which is a compilation of 56 different top prospect lists.

I was figuring ILB at #30 strictly based on need, but the board has Kenneth Murray at #18 and Patrick Queen at #19. It could be wishful thinking that either of these players make it to the Packer's pick.

I have Baun as an ILB in the NFL and I would guess that most teams see him that way too. NFL OLBs are getting bigger and bigger. Baun did weight 238 at the combine but most think he actually was 228-232 during the season.

Most would probably agree that the biggest needs on the team are, in no particular order - WR, TE, OT, DL, ILB

Starting at #25 on The Athletic board and working down, here is the players that would be top 10 possibly available for Green Bay at a position of need-

29. OT-Josh Jones/Houston
30. LB-Zack Baun/Wisconsin
33. WR-Denzel Mims/Baylor
35. WR-Tee Higgins/Clemson
39. WR-Jalen Reagor/Texas Christian
40. DL-Ross Blacklock/Texas Christian
41. OT-Austin Jackson/Southern California
42. WR-Brandon Aiyuk/Arizona State
43. WR-Laviska Shenault Jr./Colorado
46. DL-Justin Madubuike/Texas A&M

Also worth noting that the #11 WR is off the board at #53. So if the Packers wait until round two (currently pick #62) to take a WR they are likely going to miss out on all the top talent there. Chase Claypool/Notre Dame (#65) would still be available, but it seems like more and more people are reclassifying him at a TE. The next highest ranked WR left is Bryan Edwards/South Carolina (#80).

I'd guess the pick will be Mims.


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Posted: April 21, 2020, 10:55 AM Post
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Just read that Booger is one of the lead analysts for the ESPN/NFL Network simulcast... ugh. Guess I'll be watching the separate ABC coverage on Thursday/Friday instead.


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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
Looking at Twitter today, there seems to be a growing number of idiots out there hoping that the draft gets hacked. It's almost like they don't realize that if any team gets hacked, the NFL will shut the whole draft down so fast the viewers won't know what hit them. This is the first real live sports thing happening in 5 weeks. I've never looked so forward to a draft in my life. If it gets shut down because some idiot wants to see a GIF of Spongebob pop up as the Jaguars are announcing their pick, I'm gonna be pissed.


Why would people want the first fun sports thing in like 6 weeks to be ruined?


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The Athletic said that the Packers crave an ILB (Murray or Queen) or an offensive tackle (they mention Josh Jones, Ezra Cleveland and Austin Jackson as possibilities). And that they might trade up if there is someone that they really like.

You also might see the Packers trade up in the 2nd round depending on the WR situation. There's a host of good WRs that are 1st round talents that could drop into the 2nd round (such as Mims, Aiyuk, Higgins).

A lot of people seem convinced that Gutekunst is willing to wheel and deal. Should be interesting.


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Posted: April 21, 2020, 1:07 PM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
Looking at Twitter today, there seems to be a growing number of idiots out there hoping that the draft gets hacked. It's almost like they don't realize that if any team gets hacked, the NFL will shut the whole draft down so fast the viewers won't know what hit them. This is the first real live sports thing happening in 5 weeks. I've never looked so forward to a draft in my life. If it gets shut down because some idiot wants to see a GIF of Spongebob pop up as the Jaguars are announcing their pick, I'm gonna be pissed.


Why would people want the first fun sports thing in like 6 weeks to be ruined?


The only answer I could come up with is "because people are terrible."

I had another argument this morning with a guy who thought that someone hacking the draft would be hilarious. To who? I mean come on! Can't we have just a shred of positivity and faux normalness without someone making the world burn?

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Posted: April 21, 2020, 3:38 PM Post
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full disclosure, I think peter king is a moron

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... MSmxbJmIac

30. Green Bay—Michael Pittman Jr., wide receiver, USC
Professional receiver. Most have him in the second round. But the Packers don’t pick again till 62, and they see a solid but unspectacular disciplined route-runner and competitive 50-50-ball player. “He’s so reliable,” one coach told me Saturday. “He might get lost in a crop of receivers this good, but he shouldn’t. He’ll be a good receiver in the league for a long time.” Speaking of competitive receivers who were a quarterback’s best friend: Jordy Nelson, 6-3, 220 — Michael Pittman, 6-4, 222.

(so packers don't have a pick until the late 2nd, so they should draft a 2nd round guy in the 1st)


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I would have no problem with the Packers taking Pittman but he is probably a 2nd round pick.


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Posted: April 21, 2020, 3:51 PM Post
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As others have said, if Queen and Murray are gone they should trade down. If Gute REALLY loves one of the 2nd round tackles or WRs a lot better than the others than they could pick them at 30, but if they trade down they could conceivably get another pick and still get who they want (or somebody similar).


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Posted: April 22, 2020, 4:23 AM Post
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The Athletic said that the Packers crave an ILB (Murray or Queen) or an offensive tackle (they mention Josh Jones, Ezra Cleveland and Austin Jackson as possibilities). And that they might trade up if there is someone that they really like.

You also might see the Packers trade up in the 2nd round depending on the WR situation. There's a host of good WRs that are 1st round talents that could drop into the 2nd round (such as Mims, Aiyuk, Higgins).

A lot of people seem convinced that Gutekunst is willing to wheel and deal. Should be interesting.


I think the idea Gute would trade up in the first round is based on what he did last year to get Savage, ignorant to the fact GB has very little trade up Capitol. Last year we had 2picks in the first #30 being the 2nd in the round vs 1st in 2020. They used 2 4th rd picks (114&118) to move up 9spots. GB has just one 4th this season and its #136 overall.

Any trade up in the 1st round would cripple the rest of the draft. You'd be staring at maybe 2 quality picks for your entire draft and day 3 pick hopefuls.
I really only believe the 2LBs Queen or Murray or WR who they thought would never be there Juedy,Ruggs, and Jefferson that they make a 1st rd pick. Nobody else keeps them in the 1st rd. Trading down is almost a certainty.

Ive watched a good 3hours of Mocks just now and WRs are going to be there in the 2nd pick. That makes the idea on a trade down so obvious. Dont get those LBs now you have the extra pick to pick one up in the 3rd or 4th(Wilson)
Biadasz or an OL that fell would also fit with an extra 3rd Rd pick being early.
It's a really odd draft order as so many teams have multiple picks in the same rounds. Miami will have had 3 1st rd selections before GB picks. Buffalo has 2 1st but nothing til early 5th I believe. So the expectation is them trading down. How many more hours? Cant get here soon enough


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