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Posted: August 10, 2016, 11:17 AM Post
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I told my son (age 16) about Prince last night. He has grown up with this wave of guys who are now wrapping up their careers - Sheets, Fielder, Hart, Weeks, etc. He said to me he'll never forget the game where the opposing team brought in their lefty specialist to face Prince - then boom. HR. Didn't remember the opponent or the season or whatever, but it was something that stuck with him.


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Posted: August 10, 2016, 11:41 AM Post
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I haven't lived in Wisconsin for nearly two decades now, so I don't have any favorite Prince Fielder moments that I witnessed in person, but one that I watched on TV (must have been on MLB Network) is one that pops into my head every now and then.

June 15, 2009 at Cleveland. Brewers were down 12-8 going into the 8th and score 6 runs, highlighted by Prince's first career grand slam. It was a laser shot that got out in the blink of an eye. What struck me when it happened was the SOUND of the homer. One of the loudest I've ever heard on TV.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/6479266/v5 ... ew-leading


There have been a lot of great homerun hitters in the long history of baseball, but out of all of them, I always loved watching Prince hit homers the most. Every one of them was so violent, so much fun. Prince's homers were an artistic snuff film.


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Posted: August 10, 2016, 1:09 PM Post
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I was at the Brewers/Rockies game in early 2011. This was just when things were starting to come together.



I was at game 1 vs. the D'Backs in the NLDS. My first ever playoff game. It was the 7th inning and the Brewers were up 2-1 with a man on 2nd, and a righty facing Prince. Does Kirk Gibson bring in a lefty? Walk Prince with the open base? Nope! He pitches to him!



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Posted: August 10, 2016, 5:19 PM Post
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Prince had a really emotional press conference today. Hopefully the Brewers can bring him back in some capacity. He would be a really big draw as a fantasy camp coach.


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Posted: August 10, 2016, 9:31 PM Post
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Prospect Retrospective from John Sickels at minorleagueball.com. Fun read.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/8/1 ... ce-fielder


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Posted: August 10, 2016, 9:52 PM Post
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They broke into the local sportsradio station, here in Dallas, for Prince's press conference. It was a difficult, yet touching, listen. Not since 2-3 months into his Detroit Tigers days have I heard, or for the most part thought myself, anything other than he's overpaid/under-performed. Even the first 2-3 pages of this thread are mostly about whether he'll collect on the rest of his contract or not. Little to no mention of his heart or character.

I have a different perspective than most here. I was born in Milwaukee and always had a soft spot for Milwaukee/Wisconsin sports teams in my heart since I was old enough to remember. They were always my "2nd favorite team". Then, I got fed up with the Rangers in 2010, and I jumped into the Brewers' organization headfirst. I knew of Prince Fielder & co, but I didn't know much about them. I started looking up Youtube videos, I got the MLB package & started listening to Brian Anderson & "Rock", I started posting here. The first thing that jumped out at me is how much fun Prince looked like he was having. The guy was bigger than life!

It makes me very sad that a 32 year-old is forced to retire from a game that he loves so much (listen to the press conference, you'll hear it in his voice), and a game that he made so much fun for so many others. The entire Rangers' team was in attendance for his press conference. Prince has been a literal disappointment in virtually every way since coming to Texas, and yet every member of the team was there for him. That speaks volumes. It demonstrates that the little fluff pieces on the MLB network/Fox Sports Wisconsin weren't just for TV; it shows that those interactions with teammates were real. His teammates love him!

Most of all, I'm sad for his boys. Prince knows better than most big leaguers how great it is to go to the ballpark with your dad (and he's a real-life major leaguer!), and now that experience is over for them.

So, let's squash the contract talk in this thread. Prince Fielder was a true ambassador for the game. He has true heart, and his name is deserving of far better than that from Brew Crew nation.


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Posted: August 10, 2016, 10:03 PM Post
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Milwaukee needs to sign him just to sit on the bench and rough up Villar when he does stupid things.


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I'd like to see the Brewers sign him too. But, A) The Rangers are going to have him travel with the team for the rest of the year as soon as he's medically cleared to do so. B) He's tight with his Rangers' teammates. Who's still around, outside of Braun, from his time in Milwaukee for him to still have any ties with on the team?

I'm more concerned about Prince at this point than the fans. He's taken this pretty hard, as anyone would, and if traveling with the Rangers & staying close to the teammates he feels closest with will make him feel the best, then I'm all for it.


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 1:12 AM Post
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I was at the Brewers/Rockies game in early 2011. This was just when things were starting to come together.



I was at game 1 vs. the D'Backs in the NLDS. My first ever playoff game. It was the 7th inning and the Brewers were up 2-1 with a man on 2nd, and a righty facing Prince. Does Kirk Gibson bring in a lefty? Walk Prince with the open base? Nope! He pitches to him!



That NLDS video just gave me the biggest chills I've had in a long time...so freaking awesome!


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 4:25 AM Post
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Maybe if he didn't hit so many walk offs his neck would still be healthy. Jeeze they beat him up a few times. Great memories

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Posted: August 11, 2016, 7:52 AM Post

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I'd like to see the Brewers sign him too.

this thread title is misleading.

fielder is not retiring. if he were retiring, he'd forfeit what's guaranteed to him through 2020. he is part of the texas rangers organization, and is being paid by texas (and the amount pledged by detroit when they traded him).

fielder has not been designated for assignment, nor has he been released. he remains on the 60-day disabled list, and will until the season ends. at that point, texas can release him or trade him (likely forfeiting any insurance money), or they can add him back to their 40-man roster (which keeps him in the texas organization). come spring training 2017, fielder is a near-guarantee to be put back onto the 60-day disabled list, then back on the 40-man throughout the 2017-2018 offseason. keep repeating this until 2020, when his contract expires.

unless the rangers are super desperate for a 40-man roster spot in any of the next four offseasons, i can't see them cutting ties with fielder.

so, if you are hopeful that the brewers sign fielder, look for that to happen no earlier than 2021.


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 8:08 AM Post
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djoctagone is correct, of course. In the technical sense, Fielder isn't retiring. But in layman's terms, it's a retirement, and I'm not overly bugged by the use of the word.

My guess is that few players go onto the "voluntary retirement" list anymore. Most likely end up with free agent status one way or another.

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Posted: August 11, 2016, 9:07 AM Post
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Man, the more I watch highlights and think about it, the more bummed out I am that Prince is done. Such a fun baseball person.


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 9:39 AM Post
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Prince had a really emotional press conference today. Hopefully the Brewers can bring him back in some capacity. He would be a really big draw as a fantasy camp coach.

Ya, that was a pretty sad press conference.
http://deadspin.com/prince-fielders-ret ... 1785145364

Get well Prince! You got two young boys who could follow the Fielder homerun tradition. Time to become a coach. Good luck Prince, you were one of my favorite Brewers of all time to watch.


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 11:04 AM Post
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i believe that in order for texas to collect on their insurance policy, fielder needs to remain part of the organization. that may require that he be added back to the 40-man roster each offseason, and then put on the 60-day disabled list during each remaining season of his contract.

if this is the case, this handicaps texas' offseason moves.

i recall that the orioles kept albert belle on their roster during the offseason in order to collect insurance payments.


Insurance companies aren't dumb when it comes to finances. If they negotiate with the ballclub to save a percent on what they were obligated to pay on the disability contract, I'm sure they can come to some agreement to release that provision, if it is even in there.


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 11:20 AM Post
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Insurance companies aren't dumb when it comes to finances.


Like AIG?


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 11:25 AM Post
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Pro wrestlers used to be able to buy lucrative insurance policies from Lloyd's of London. They eventually got out of that game when it no longer made financial sense. Maybe the same thing could happen eventually with baseball, given how salaries continue to escalate.

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Posted: August 11, 2016, 11:30 AM Post
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Insurance companies aren't dumb when it comes to finances.


Like AIG?


They are still around, eh. [wink]

I should have said the insurance companies are pretty good at actuarial and time value of money transactions (insurance type of functions), which is what they would be using to negotiate a release of contract provisions.

The too big to fail companies try to act like banks/investment banks and got in trouble, right?


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Posted: August 11, 2016, 12:52 PM Post
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Very sad to see Prince's press conference. Not being able to play anymore at age 32 will be very tough on him emotionally. I'm sure they'll be nights where he's dreaming about standing in there against any number of pitchers and he'll wake up only to realize it was all a dream.

Hoping he's able to resume a normal life and be there as a father to his boys. Who knows, maybe another Fielder will come along and he'll hit 319 too.


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