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Offline  Prince Fielder Retires: A Brewer Fan’s Thank You
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Posted: August 11, 2016, 2:16 PM Post
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Posted: August 11, 2016, 4:56 PM Post
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Anyone see the mic drop he did at the end of the conference? Nice.

I hope Ice Cube plays old Prince him in his upcoming biopic.

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Posted: August 18, 2016, 5:06 AM Post
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In 2007, Prince started the season as a 22-year old ... and hit 50 home runs!


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Offline  Re: Prince Fielder likely will not return to baseball
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Posted: November 11, 2016, 2:51 PM Post

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fielder has not been designated for assignment, nor has he been released. he remains on the 60-day disabled list, and will until the season ends. at that point, texas can release him or trade him (likely forfeiting any insurance money), or they can add him back to their 40-man roster (which keeps him in the texas organization). come spring training 2017, fielder is a near-guarantee to be put back onto the 60-day disabled list, then back on the 40-man throughout the 2017-2018 offseason. keep repeating this until 2020, when his contract expires.

unless the rangers are super desperate for a 40-man roster spot in any of the next four offseasons, i can't see them cutting ties with fielder.

so, if you are hopeful that the brewers sign fielder, look for that to happen no earlier than 2021.

on 7 november, the rangers activated fielder from the 60-day disabled list and returned him to their 40-man roster. he will undoubtedly hold that roster spot throughout the offseason.


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Posted: November 11, 2016, 3:22 PM Post
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what a shame yes would like for him to retire a brewer


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Posted: November 11, 2016, 4:16 PM Post
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on 7 november, the rangers activated fielder from the 60-day disabled list and returned him to their 40-man roster. he will undoubtedly hold that roster spot throughout the offseason.

That would be a really annoying technicality. Not only do have to pay the guy, but you have to sacrifice a 40 man spot in order to have the insurance cough up their portion. Let me count the ways in which I'm thankful we did not re-sign The Prince.


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Posted: November 11, 2016, 5:24 PM Post
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Should be an interesting case study in how much teams' value their 40 man roster spots. The Rangers essentially playing with only 39 certainly puts them at a marginal disadvantage. Depending on how many guys Texas feels they need to protect the year before Fielder's contract expires I could see them releasing him and foregoing the insurance payment for the last season.


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Posted: November 11, 2016, 6:47 PM Post

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i would think that texas could also sign a player to a guaranteed minor league one-year deal but have the salary be for millions of dollars--with the full intention to have him on the 25-man roster all season once spring training ends.


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Posted: November 11, 2016, 7:43 PM Post
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Considering that there have been qualifying offer free agents floating around into spring training the last few years, I don't know if having late flexibility is really a problem for Texas. Honestly, there's always that Loogy or other fungible reliever floating around too. I don't see the 40th guy on the roster being the difference between Texas competing or not competing.


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Posted: November 12, 2016, 8:26 AM Post
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djoctagone said:
djoctagone said:
fielder has not been designated for assignment, nor has he been released. he remains on the 60-day disabled list, and will until the season ends. at that point, texas can release him or trade him (likely forfeiting any insurance money), or they can add him back to their 40-man roster (which keeps him in the texas organization). come spring training 2017, fielder is a near-guarantee to be put back onto the 60-day disabled list, then back on the 40-man throughout the 2017-2018 offseason. keep repeating this until 2020, when his contract expires.

unless the rangers are super desperate for a 40-man roster spot in any of the next four offseasons, i can't see them cutting ties with fielder.

so, if you are hopeful that the brewers sign fielder, look for that to happen no earlier than 2021.

on 7 november, the rangers activated fielder from the 60-day disabled list and returned him to their 40-man roster. he will undoubtedly hold that roster spot throughout the offseason.

This is what the Orioles had to do with Albert Belle for several seasons.


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Posted: November 14, 2016, 12:04 PM Post
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When can he be returned to the 60 day DL? I assume it can't happen before opening day but I really don't know.

There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.


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Posted: November 14, 2016, 2:53 PM Post
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When can he be returned to the 60 day DL? I assume it can't happen before opening day but I really don't know.


Once Spring Training begins (and by theory - once play resumes).
There are no DL lists during the off season.


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Posted: November 14, 2016, 3:09 PM Post
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That's a good question. We know that teams utilize the 15-day DL during spring training, although there's no roster implication until Opening Day. The main reason for doing that is that a player can come off sooner.

I don't recall players going to the 60-day DL during spring training, but I guess it can happen. Prince will certainly be going back as soon as he can and as soon as the Rangers can use his roster spot.

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Posted: November 14, 2016, 4:58 PM Post

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on 13 february 2013, the yankees put alex rodriguez on the 60-day disabled list. that was 10 days before the yankees' first spring training game.


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Posted: November 16, 2016, 1:15 PM Post

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detroit does not have insurance on the $6 million they pledged to pay fielder for 2017, so they're on the hook for that full amount as agreed upon when they traded him to texas.


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Posted: October 04, 2017, 5:47 PM Post

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djoctagone said:
Thundercat32 said:
I'd like to see the Brewers sign him too.
fielder is not retiring. if he were retiring, he'd forfeit what's guaranteed to him through 2020. he is part of the texas rangers organization, and is being paid by texas (and the amount pledged by detroit when they traded him).

fielder has not been designated for assignment, nor has he been released. he remains on the 60-day disabled list, and will until the season ends. at that point, texas can release him or trade him (likely forfeiting any insurance money), or they can add him back to their 40-man roster (which keeps him in the texas organization). come spring training 2017, fielder is a near-guarantee to be put back onto the 60-day disabled list, then back on the 40-man throughout the 2017-2018 offseason. keep repeating this until 2020, when his contract expires.

unless the rangers are super desperate for a 40-man roster spot in any of the next four offseasons, i can't see them cutting ties with fielder.

so, if you are hopeful that the brewers sign fielder, look for that to happen no earlier than 2021.

the texas rangers settled with their insurance company, allowing them flexibility to remove prince fielder from their 40-man roster in the offseason. they exercised that right by releasing fielder today.

obviously, his 40-man spot can now go to any prospect or free agent, so this is advantageous to the rangers as they plan their 2018 roster.


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Posted: October 04, 2017, 6:11 PM Post
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Do we have any idea what the Rangers settled for with the insurance company? As a poster mentioned above this is a very interesting case study on the value of a 40 man roster spot.


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Posted: October 04, 2017, 9:50 PM Post
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I'm sure they gave the insurance companies a small discount on the settlement. even $500k or $1M is a savings. What I'm curious about is why the insurance companies were willing to insure Prince, especially his back. If I gain 5 lbs, I can feel it. He was the heaviest sub 6' player in MLB history.


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Posted: October 05, 2017, 7:10 AM Post
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Prince had been one of the most durable players in baseball before he signed the contract, never missed games. They'd have no reason to think it would go like this. It's very rare that you can't insure a player, situations like Jabari Parker's upcoming contract, Joel Embiid's upcoming contract, Amare Stoudemire is famously one that couldn't be insured due to his knee injuries. Plus, baseball is the least injury risk sport especially for position players.


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Posted: October 05, 2017, 8:12 PM Post
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I loved Prince when he was a Brewer, but Melvin made the right move by extending Braun over Fielder if they were only going to do one or the other back in 2011.


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