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40-man roster discussion (part 2)

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Offline djoctagone   40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: October 29, 2016, 6:18 AM Post

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even though the brewers had until after the world series to activate players from the 60-day disabled list and return them to the 40-man, the brewers opted to act sooner with rymer liriano. but rather than adding him back to a full 40-man, they tried to outright him to the minor leagues. instead, he was claimed by the white sox.

the 40-man remains full with three players still on the 60-day disabled list.

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Offline Outlander Re: 40-man roster discussion
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Posted: October 29, 2016, 6:34 AM Post
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Cecchini, Elmore, Wilkins and Nolin were also removed.
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Offline Mass Haas Re: 40-man roster discussion
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Posted: October 29, 2016, 6:47 AM Post
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Outlander said:
Cecchini, Elmore, Wilkins and Nolin were also removed.


As noted here, all four will be free agents five days after the World Series, barring a re-sign.

So technically the 40-man roster is down to 37 (and with Capuano and Barrios still on the 60-day DL), the actual list is at 39.
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Offline MNBrew Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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... although realistically, Capuano and Boyer will file for FA within a day of the Series ending, so it will functionally be right back at 37 pretty quickly barring further moves -- and more moves would seem to be a given with the number of young guys who need 40-man protection this winter.
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Offline And That Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: October 31, 2016, 8:46 AM Post
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I imagine there will be a few more guys to come off soon-ish. I have a difficult time seeing them carrying Rowen and Goforth through the offseason. Pinto probably goes too.
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Offline And That Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Not shockingly, Elmore elects free agency.
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Offline JohnBriggs12 Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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And That said:
I imagine there will be a few more guys to come off soon-ish. I have a difficult time seeing them carrying Rowen and Goforth through the offseason. Pinto probably goes too.


Will be interested to see what they do with Blazek. I'd remove him and see if he clears waivers then offer him a minor league deal.
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Offline Greenleaf1 Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 01, 2016, 7:06 AM Post
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What is it with people wanting to let Blazek go? There's no way he'd clear waivers, he's been dominant when healthy.
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Offline djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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What is it with people wanting to let Blazek go? There's no way he'd clear waivers, he's been dominant when healthy.

any team that claimed blazek could option him in 2017.
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Offline JohnBriggs12 Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 01, 2016, 12:58 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
Greenleaf1 said:
What is it with people wanting to let Blazek go? There's no way he'd clear waivers, he's been dominant when healthy.

any team that claimed blazek could option him in 2017.


Are you saying he wasn't healthy when he compiled a 5.66 ERA and 1.911 WHIP last year and walked 27 batters in 41 innings? Then why was he out there? It's not a matter of wanting to let him go just that he was terrible in 2016 and he'll turn 28 next March. That doesn't scream secure spot on a roster to me but I could see them holding on to him if there's not a younger player they'd like to protect instead. It's not a clear call though.
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Offline MNBrew Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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I thought I remembered Blazek pitching pretty well after the brought him back from AAA and before he went on the DL. No denying, though, that he was lousy this year pre-AAA and never the same after he came off the DL.
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Online adambr2 Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 03, 2016, 12:32 AM Post
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Is Wily Peralta under club control through 2018, or 2019? Every reference I can find seems to indicate 2018, but based on his service time and long stint in the minors this year I tend to think he is actually likely to be arbitration controlled by the Brewers in 2019, but I may be mistaken.
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Offline Outlander Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 03, 2016, 6:28 AM Post
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He is controlled through 2019, will have 4 arbitration years. He is just under 4 years of service time.
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Offline And That Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Peralta's 8 week demotion to AAA cost him a year of service time. As of the end of 2016, he's at about 3 years and 159 days. So if he had been in Milwaukee for 14 more days this year, he would have surpassed 4 years of service time.

Not quite as bad as Taylor Jungmann, who I have as being 1 day short of a full year of service.
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Offline reillymcshane Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 03, 2016, 7:39 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Is Wily Peralta under club control through 2018, or 2019? Every reference I can find seems to indicate 2018, but based on his service time and long stint in the minors this year I tend to think he is actually likely to be arbitration controlled by the Brewers in 2019, but I may be mistaken.

Wily was on target to be a free agent after the 2018 season, but the time in minors this year appears to have delayed it a year. Some sites, like baseball-reference.com, just haven't updated service times and likely free agent status. Thus you are seeing the earlier date for free agency some places.
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Offline 1992casey Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 03, 2016, 7:54 AM Post
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Just to add to the confusion, Baseball reference shows Wily's service time as of January, 2016, but it has updated his free agent status to show that he isn't eligible until 2019.
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Offline djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 03, 2016, 4:46 PM Post

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blaine boyer and chris capuano declare free agency, removing them from the roster. the roster is at 36, with yhonathan barrios still on the 60-man disabled list.
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Online adambr2 Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 03, 2016, 9:22 PM Post
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1992casey said:
Just to add to the confusion, Baseball reference shows Wily's service time as of January, 2016, but it has updated his free agent status to show that he isn't eligible until 2019.


Shouldn't it actually be 2020, though?
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Offline Outlander Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 04, 2016, 6:58 AM Post
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Yeah, it hasn't been updated. If it was correct it would say 2020. The free agent year is based on the season he will be a free agent even though technically he would be a free agent in November 2019.
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Offline And That Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
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Posted: November 04, 2016, 9:19 AM Post
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djoctagone said:
blaine boyer and chris capuano declare free agency, removing them from the roster. the roster is at 36, with yhonathan barrios still on the 60-man disabled list.

Barrios will need to be activated by 4pm CST on Monday the 7th. It's the same deadline as for submitting a qualifying offer and exercising options.

If he is outrighted off of the 40-man roster, he would (I believe) become a minor league free agent. Though maybe not, depending on how they treat his 2010 season.
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