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40-man roster discussion (part 2)

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Offline wntrtxn21 Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: April 28, 2019, 1:53 PM Post
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david freitas acquired from seattle for a minor leaguer and optioned to san antonio. it appears that freitas will be burning his second option in just a matter of days if he remains optioned.

corey knebel moved to the 60-day injured list.

the 40-man remains at capacity.


Freitas is an extremly weak hitting catcher. He looks to be either AA or AAA backup material.


Actually Freitas isn't a bad hitter at all. He had a .955 OPS in 39 games in AAA last year and has a .996 OPS so far this year between Tacoma and San Antonio.


Frietas in MLB: .214/.270. SLG .313. He seems like an AAAA type. Good in minors, bad in majors.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: April 29, 2019, 2:48 PM Post

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alex wilson has been designated for assignment. the brewers have seven days to trade, release or outright wilson to the minors.

jay jackson has his contract selected. he has three minor league options remaining.

the roster remains at capacity.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 01, 2019, 1:53 PM Post

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both jake petricka and alex wilson have been outrighted to class aaa san antonio. presumably, both have accepted the minor league assignments.
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Offline Roderick Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 06, 2019, 11:28 AM Post
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So what is the deal with Jay Jackson? Will a team scoop him up? Will he still end up with the AAA team and an option again later in the season?
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Offline And That Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 06, 2019, 11:38 AM Post
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If he clears waivers, Jackson can elect to reject an outright assignment and become a free agent. So he could get claimed, or not get claimed and become a FA, or not get claimed and accept the assignment to San Antonio.

If he accepts the assignment to San Antonio and the Brewers later add him back to the 40-man, he could still be optioned as necessary.
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Offline NYChez Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 06, 2019, 11:41 AM Post
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A lot of lives are impacted by unexpected events such as Chase’s blister and the 18-inning game. This is why 2-3 spots need to be reserved for players with no long-term role in the organization.
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Offline And That Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 06, 2019, 12:38 PM Post
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I believe Burch Smith has one option remaining.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 07, 2019, 7:21 AM Post

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If he clears waivers, Jackson can elect to reject an outright assignment and become a free agent. So he could get claimed, or not get claimed and become a FA, or not get claimed and accept the assignment to San Antonio.

If he accepts the assignment to San Antonio and the Brewers later add him back to the 40-man, he could still be optioned as necessary.

I believe Burch Smith has one option remaining.

and that is correct on both jay jackson and burch smith. the club has seven days to trade, release or try to outright jackson to the minor leagues. if jackson refuses the assignment, he voids his contract in becoming a free agent.

if the club wishes to outright smith to the minor leagues instead of optioning him, he faces the same situation as jackson, as he has been outrighted to the minor leagues before.

the 40-man roster remains at capacity.
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Offline bjkrautk Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 08, 2019, 5:10 PM Post
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https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/ ... 1985327106

From Adam McCalvy's Twitter: "Jay Jackson was assigned outright to Triple-A San Antonio. Brewers had designated him for assignment the other day, but he stays in the organization."
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 08, 2019, 5:19 PM Post

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jay jackson spent only two days optioned to the minor leagues before being designated for assignment (which immediately removed him from the 40-man roster). if he spends another 18 days in the minor leagues while on the 40-man roster, he will burn his first option.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 14, 2019, 12:18 PM Post

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keston hiura has his contract selected and has three minor league options intact. travis shaw to the 10-day injured list. cory spangenberg has been designated for assignment.

the brewers have seven days to trade, release or outright spangenberg to the minors. spangenberg has not been outrighted to the minor leagues before, so if he clears waivers, he will be forced to accept the minor league assignment.

the roster remains at capacity.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: May 21, 2019, 7:12 AM Post

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on saturday, cory spangenberg cleared waivers and was outrighted to san antonio.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: June 28, 2019, 1:10 PM Post

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hernan perez has been designated for assignment. the brewers have seven days to trade, release or try to outright him to the minor leagues.

perez has been outrighted before. if he is not claimed by another team, he reserves the right to refuse the minor league assignment and become a free agent.

the roster is at 39.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: July 04, 2019, 9:08 AM Post

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as we now know, hernan perez went unclaimed and accepted an outright assignment to san antonio. he will be a minor league free agent after this season.

the 40-man spot vacated by him didn't stay open for long.

deolis guerra has his contract selected from san antonio, with aaron wilkerson being optioned there.

guerra is out of minor league options, and has been outrighted to the minor leagues before. if the brewers wish to send deolis guerra to the minor leagues, he must first clear waivers. if he is not claimed by another team, he reserves the right to refuse the minor league assignment and become a free agent.

the roster is at 40.
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Offline brewmann04 Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: July 04, 2019, 8:01 PM Post
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This is not a issue if they need that spot.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: July 06, 2019, 11:04 AM Post

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deolis guerra has been designated for assignment. the brewers have seven days to trade, release or try to outright guerra to the minors. burch smith has been recalled (raise your hand if you remembered that he was still on the 40-man).

guerra is out of minor league options, and has been outrighted to the minor leagues before. if the brewers wish to send deolis guerra to the minor leagues, he must first clear waivers. if he is not claimed by another team, he reserves the right to refuse the minor league assignment and become a free agent.

the roster is at 39.
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Offline Oxy Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: July 10, 2019, 6:52 PM Post
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It's a little bit alarming how many guys we have waived this year and retained the rights for--including the last position player on the roster the last 4 years. I thought this was a deep team coming into the year but I guess notso much.
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Offline Jopal78! Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: July 11, 2019, 7:35 AM Post
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It's a little bit alarming how many guys we have waived this year and retained the rights for--including the last position player on the roster the last 4 years. I thought this was a deep team coming into the year but I guess notso much.


It’s largely a financial issue with the players not a depth issue with the team. If a player is Designated for Assignement, clears waivers and is assigned to the minor leagues as a non roster (40 man) player and they don’t report, the organization isn’t obligated to pay them. For players like H.P. thats serious dough. Even Alex Wilson is at $750,000 so for those type of players it’s a slice of humble pie but reporting to the minors is probably a no brainer financially.

Conversely, the Brewers don’t flat out release these players because their contract is a sunk cost and they may as well see if the player can figure it out and maybe deliver something of value
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Offline Joey Meyer Bombs Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: July 11, 2019, 7:40 AM Post
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Oxy said:
It's a little bit alarming how many guys we have waived this year and retained the rights for--including the last position player on the roster the last 4 years. I thought this was a deep team coming into the year but I guess notso much.


Is it? Every team in MLB is looking for roster flexibility at the bottom of the 25- and 40-man roster. It seems that fringe MLB players who are out of options typically have a difficult go of it regardless of which organization they are with. I imagine most teams have several players that fall into that category as well, which hinders being able to churn the bottom of the roster.
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Online djoctagone Re: 40-man roster discussion (part 2)
Posted: July 14, 2019, 9:20 AM Post

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jay jackson spent only two days optioned to the minor leagues before being designated for assignment (which immediately removed him from the 40-man roster). if he spends another 18 days in the minor leagues while on the 40-man roster, he will burn his first option.

bringing this forward as jackson's contract was selected yesterday while optioning mauricio dubon.

if the brewers wish to outright jackson to the minor leagues again, he reserves the right to refuse the assignment, voiding his contract, and become a free agent.

however, jackson still has all three minor league options intact, and is still 18 days away from burning his first option.

the roster is at 40.
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