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40-man roster discussion (part 2)

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Posted: December 17, 2019, 12:42 PM Post
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LouisEly said:
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avisaíl garcía deal is official. it appears that he has one minor league option remaining, but enough service time to refuse the optional assignment.

the roster is at 37 players.

Been meaning to ask this for a while - is your shift key broken? [tongue]

I find it hilarious that you have the acute accent over the "i"'s, but no capitalization.


I think Brewmann and him share keyboards.


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Posted: December 17, 2019, 5:12 PM Post

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ryon healy signs with the brewers. he has all three minor league options intact, but has been outrighted to the minor leagues before.

the roster is at 38 players.


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Posted: December 18, 2019, 7:37 PM Post
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Do you have a link to the full list?
Baseball reference seems stuck on last year's 40 unless I missed something...

Thanks.


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Posted: December 18, 2019, 8:34 PM Post

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http://m.mlb.com/mil/roster/40-man


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Posted: December 20, 2019, 3:18 PM Post

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deals for eric sogard and justin smoak are official.

sogard has one option remaining, but sufficient service time to refuse the optional assignment.

it's not clear if smoak burned one of his three options in 2012, but regardless, has enough service time to refuse an optional assignment even if he had an option remaining.

for the first time since the conclusion of the 2019 season, the 40-man roster is full.


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Posted: December 20, 2019, 7:26 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
LouisEly said:
djoctagone said:
avisaíl garcía deal is official. it appears that he has one minor league option remaining, but enough service time to refuse the optional assignment.

the roster is at 37 players.

Been meaning to ask this for a while - is your shift key broken? [tongue]

I find it hilarious that you have the acute accent over the "i"'s, but no capitalization.


I’ve asked the same question several times over the years. I’ve never gotten a response.


Has an old school espn2 feel to it.


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Posted: January 03, 2020, 5:09 PM Post

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because of missed time from a major injury, taylor williams has been granted a fourth option. it will be burned in 2020, regardless of his roster status with the club.


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Posted: January 03, 2020, 9:37 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
because of missed time from a major injury, taylor williams has been granted a fourth option. it will be burned in 2020, regardless of his roster status with the club.


Well, that probably saves him from being DFAed.


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Posted: January 10, 2020, 5:00 PM Post

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jedd gyorko signed to a one-year deal with a club option.

to make room on the 40-man roster, jake faria has been designated for assignment. the club has seven days to trade, release or try to outright faria to the minors.

the 40-man roster remains full.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 8:20 AM Post
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I'd have to say that Jake Faria goes down as a big swing and a miss as a return for a guy one year removed from being an All Star. He showed nothing.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 8:28 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
I'd have to say that Jake Faria goes down as a big swing and a miss as a return for a guy one year removed from being an All Star. He showed nothing.


I love how you phrase this as if that “all star” wasn’t a complete turd a season ago. But yes, Stearns is awful.

"I'm not as good as I was but in big moments I'm still the guy. I want that opportunity." -Ryan Braun


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 8:36 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
I'd have to say that Jake Faria goes down as a big swing and a miss as a return for a guy one year removed from being an All Star. He showed nothing.


This fails to acknowledge that that former All-Star was similarly DFA'd by the acquiring team after 2 months with them....


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 8:43 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
I'd have to say that Jake Faria goes down as a big swing and a miss as a return for a guy one year removed from being an All Star. He showed nothing.


Teams (especially the Rays) don't care if a player they are acquiring is one year removed from being an All Star, they care about their salary & team control relative to their projected future performance weighted against the scarcity of available players at the same position.

Remeber Bryan LaHair, the Cubs first baseman who was an All Star in 2012 then never played in MLB again? That's how much the league values nondescript 1B, even "All Star" ones.

The Rays valued Jesus so highly they waived him.

I'd have to say a waived 1B getting traded for a waived P looks like pretty equal value, the big swing & miss would be trying to portray it otherwise.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 9:10 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
I'd have to say that Jake Faria goes down as a big swing and a miss as a return for a guy one year removed from being an All Star. He showed nothing.


Not all trades involving sending a polished turd the brewers don't want anymore to a team for their polished turd you think could be hiding a diamond has to result in the brewers unearthing a diamond for Stearns to be a good GM. Sometimes those moves are as simple as balancing out your own 40 man roster, which Jesus most certainly didnt deserve to remain a part of based on performance since about mid july 2018 and the fact he had no more options.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 10:18 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
I'd have to say that Jake Faria goes down as a big swing and a miss as a return for a guy one year removed from being an All Star. He showed nothing.


How many dingers is Jesus gonna hit for the Rays this year?

You have chosen some odd hills to die on over the years, and this is one of the oddest ones.

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Posted: January 11, 2020, 1:13 PM Post
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Faria has no doubt looked pretty bad the last couple of years and probably had slim to no chance of making the team. Agree with him being the one to DFA and hopefully he clears waivers and the Brewers can send him to the minors.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 1:41 PM Post
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Faria has no doubt looked pretty bad the last couple of years and probably had slim to no chance of making the team. Agree with him being the one to DFA and hopefully he clears waivers and the Brewers can send him to the minors.

If he ends up at San Antonio, at least there's the opportunity for him to continue to develop within our organization, and if he does and eventually becomes a better piece for the Brewers than he is at present (meaning that he was in his time here in 2019), then we'd still on the "up" end of the trade. . . . For as much as Nelson Cruz is "that" Nelson Cruz over the past decade, he was a waived Nelson Cruz by Texas at one point that NO teams claimed, then developed more and became "that" Nelson Cruz. I'm not saying that guarantees anything for Faria, but if we still have him, then there's a chance he might still turn into a net-positive.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 7:11 PM Post
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For what it is worth. I don't believe Texas ever waived Cruz. I think he left via free agency with Orioles signing him.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 10:11 PM Post
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Cruz was DFA by Texas but nobody claimed him so he stayed in the Texas organization and had a great career there.


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Posted: January 11, 2020, 11:37 PM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
I'd have to say that Jake Faria goes down as a big swing and a miss as a return for a guy one year removed from being an All Star. He showed nothing.


How many dingers is Jesus gonna hit for the Rays this year?
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I think Jesus may help the Rays get a new stadium. Some of his ridiculously high flies will either puncture the roof or hit the catwalks, causing a ripple effect in which the entire stadium will come down (Death Star-like)


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