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2017 Starting Pitching Rotation

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Posted: August 07, 2017, 3:10 PM Post

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markedman5 said:
djoctagone said:
the rotation is insane right now. there's still time to decide where to place chase anderson (and possibly junior guerra if the club doesn't want to burn his final option), but at this point, who deserves to be bumped from the starting rotation?

Brewers have already used Guerra option....they can move him up or down as many times as they want the rest of the year without changing anything......

if a player spends less than 20 days optioned, his option isn't burned. with september roster expansion looming, this affects not only junior guerra, but also michael blazek, keon broxton, wei-chung wang, tyler webb and brandon woodruff, as all have spent less than 20 days optioned thus far. blazek and guerra could both burn their final option this year, as could keon broxton.


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Posted: August 09, 2017, 9:03 AM Post
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Suter and Garza both made strong cases for removal from rotation when Anderson returns. Will likely come down to one more start for each. Suter has some value out of the pen. I imagine if Garza doesn't bounce back, they'll bring back Guerra or look at Jungmann or some other guys in September.


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Posted: August 09, 2017, 9:29 AM Post

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JohnBriggs12 said:
Suter and Garza both made strong cases for removal from rotation when Anderson returns.

suter, having already burned his first option, could be a tough luck candidate to be sent down, but then recalled in september.


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Posted: August 09, 2017, 9:57 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
Suter and Garza both made strong cases for removal from rotation when Anderson returns. Will likely come down to one more start for each. Suter has some value out of the pen. I imagine if Garza doesn't bounce back, they'll bring back Guerra or look at Jungmann or some other guys in September.

LOL. Garza a strong case for removal after one awful inning? Your boy Perez was 0-4 last night....made a pretty strong case for being removed from the 25 and replaced with Rivera (this is an appropriate analogy because of the level of absurdity along with the replacement being a worse option).

Nelson, Davies, Garza aren't going anywhere. Chase gets added to that mix then the final spot is between Woodruff (should be) or Suter at this point. Guerra was sent down to work on throwing strikes. He's pitched 1 AAA game since and walked 4 in 5 innings.


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Posted: August 09, 2017, 10:25 AM Post
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Garza had a 2.00 ERA over his last 6 starts, then had one bad inning last night. He's not getting dumped out of the rotation after one bad (really bad!) start. Like others in the game thread said last night, a lot of people are just really (really) pre-disposed to just for some reason hate Garza. His peripherals aren't great, he doesn't strike out a ton of batters, and he was really awful last year. I get all that. But for the last several starts, he was pretty good. His leash isn't going to end at one bad outing.


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Posted: August 09, 2017, 2:56 PM Post
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I see Chase A pitched last night. Gave up one run and took the loss. He'll fit right in with this offense when he comes back.


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Posted: August 13, 2017, 10:24 AM Post

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the two off days this week have worked quite well in the club's favor, given brent suter's injury.

today: matt garza
monday: off
tuesday: brandon woodruff on five days' rest
wednesday: zach davies on five days' rest
thursday: off
friday: jimmy nelson on six days' rest
saturday: matt garza on five days' rest
sunday: brandon woodruff on four days' rest

chase anderson could return to start by wednesday of next week on four days' rest (he's starting today for colorado springs).


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Posted: August 13, 2017, 11:36 AM Post

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updated per this tweet . . .

today: matt garza
monday: off
tuesday: zach davies on four days' rest
wednesday: jimmy nelson on four days' rest
thursday: off

by this point, friday's starter could be matt garza or brandon woodruff, and either would have at least four days' rest.


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Posted: August 14, 2017, 10:13 AM Post
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I wonder if they'll try to move up Anderson a day, so he could start next Tuesday. Otherwise, they have to find a starter.


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Posted: August 14, 2017, 10:23 AM Post
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bork said:
I wonder if they'll try to move up Anderson a day, so he could start next Tuesday. Otherwise, they have to find a starter.


Good point. That or they could send up someone on short rest for one start(I doubt they do this). Also possible we try and use Hader and Jeffress to eat 5-6 innings in a bullpen game on Tuesday considering we will have an off day coming up. I can't see them rushing Anderson who is coming off injury. Most likely we bring up someone for a spot start. It will be an interesting decision for sure.

I wonder how prepared Woodruff will be to face major league hitters in Colorado after pitching there most of the year.


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Posted: August 15, 2017, 3:39 PM Post

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djoctagone said:
updated per this tweet . . .

today: matt garza
monday: off
tuesday: zach davies on four days' rest
wednesday: jimmy nelson on four days' rest
thursday: off

by this point, friday's starter could be matt garza or brandon woodruff, and either would have at least four days' rest.

chase anderson named sunday's starting pitcher.

assume that friday and saturday will be covered by matt garza and brandon woodruff, with woodruff optioned to make room for anderson.


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Posted: August 16, 2017, 7:15 AM Post
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If Woodruff is optioned after Saturday's game they can just go with a four man rotation of Davies, Nelson, Garza, Anderson until September call up due to all of the off days.


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Posted: August 16, 2017, 11:12 AM Post

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If Woodruff is optioned after Saturday's game they can just go with a four man rotation of Davies, Nelson, Garza, Anderson until September call up due to all of the off days.

good point, but woodruff is scheduled for friday. junior guerra was optioned 30 july. i'm not sure if one counts that day or not when calculating 20 days optioned, so guerra could be in line to be recalled after the game on 18 august, and possibly still have his final option preserved.


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Posted: August 17, 2017, 7:42 PM Post
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It looks like Garza is now pitching Friday and Woodruff Saturday so maybe the Brewers are thinking the same thing.


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Posted: August 17, 2017, 9:19 PM Post
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Going to be interesting especially with Jungmann throwing well


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Posted: August 18, 2017, 6:47 AM Post
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brewmann04 said:
Going to be interesting especially with Jungmann throwing well


It sure is nice having an abundance of quality rotation options in August. That should keep the Espinos of the world from ever having to make starts for this team. I have to admit, though, that it would be nice to see Jungmann up and making starts with the big club, just to see what, if anything, they have in him for the future. Even if he only tops out as a serviceable #4, there is still value there, especially when you consider the injuries that a typical starting rotation faces in a given season.


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Posted: August 18, 2017, 8:53 AM Post
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If Woodruff is optioned after Saturday's game they can just go with a four man rotation of Davies, Nelson, Garza, Anderson until September call up due to all of the off days.


I think that's exactly what they'll do. Tough spot for Anderson to return, but hopefully he's up to it. They'll have choices in September. Guerra, Suter, Woodruff and perhaps Jungmann will all be around.


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Posted: August 19, 2017, 10:35 AM Post
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I predict Woodruff stays, they will try and send Garza to the pen, he will complain about it, so he'll end up with a season ending DL stint due to "shoulder fatigue".


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Posted: August 19, 2017, 11:10 AM Post
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If Garza doesn't want to help the team by going to the pen then they should release him. He isn't any good as it is and he probably wouldn't be any good in the pen with a bad attitude either. Be better off to just get rid of him.


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Posted: August 19, 2017, 12:58 PM Post
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Maybe the pen would be a great fit for Garza. Let him throw hard for an inning and heat that sucker up a bit.

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