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Posted: May 18, 2017, 5:44 AM Post
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Interesting decisions if they decide to keep Sogard up when Braun and Guerra are activated. Do they go back to 7 man pen and who's the odd man out? Feliz? Is there a team out there desperate enough to claim him and take on his salary? Or do they option Arcia or DFA Franklin?


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Posted: May 18, 2017, 6:05 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
Interesting decisions if they decide to keep Sogard up when Braun and Guerra are activated. Do they go back to 7 man pen and who's the odd man out? Feliz? Is there a team out there desperate enough to claim him and take on his salary? Or do they option Arcia or DFA Franklin?


Do you think the Brewers will option Arcia in favor of Sogard?!


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Posted: May 18, 2017, 10:18 AM Post
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I would like to see Jimmy Nelson shifted to the bullpen with Peralta. I know he just had a decent start his last time out but I don't really see a future for him to stick as a reliable starter.

Also would like to see Hader start his career in the pen. He can learn on the job and provide some help in an area of need without the pressure if starting. Can also limit his innings if they think it's necessary.


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Posted: May 18, 2017, 10:23 AM Post
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Nelson has pitched well recently. I'd like to see Tristan Archer get a shot in the bullpen if he keeps pitching well.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 10:27 PM Post
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2 outstanding additions to our pen in the 2nd half would be Woodruff and Hader. No trade necessary


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 10:39 PM Post
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The bullpen is perfectly fine if you ask me. If we keep contending we could easily internally add to make it even better.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 10:51 PM Post
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DHonks said:
2 outstanding additions to our pen in the 2nd half would be Woodruff and Hader. No trade necessary


Hader I totally agree. Woodruff I think needs to stay in the rotation and should be in the MLB rotation sometime this season.


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Posted: May 20, 2017, 6:47 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
DHonks said:
2 outstanding additions to our pen in the 2nd half would be Woodruff and Hader. No trade necessary


Hader I totally agree. Woodruff I think needs to stay in the rotation and should be in the MLB rotation sometime this season.



I'd say Hader and Lopez. Maybe Taylor Williams although he needs to get his walks down. Hader as well but I give him a pass at CS.


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Posted: May 20, 2017, 8:22 AM Post
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Hader definitely would provide something the pen lacks, a lefty power arm even if they envision him starting in the not too distant future. Woodruff should remain a starter. He's ahead of Espino in the pecking order already but they just needed a spot start.


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Posted: May 20, 2017, 8:30 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
Interesting decisions if they decide to keep Sogard up when Braun and Guerra are activated. Do they go back to 7 man pen and who's the odd man out? Feliz? Is there a team out there desperate enough to claim him and take on his salary? Or do they option Arcia or DFA Franklin?


Do you think the Brewers will option Arcia in favor of Sogard?!


I need to double quote this to emphasize it. I know you are just creating conversation ... but optioning Arcia to keep Sogard is stuff of soon to be fired GMs. Sogard and Nick Franklin are the same player. One of them can go and given Sogard's revival it will be Franklin.


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Posted: May 20, 2017, 8:31 AM Post
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yfinn6 said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
Interesting decisions if they decide to keep Sogard up when Braun and Guerra are activated. Do they go back to 7 man pen and who's the odd man out? Feliz? Is there a team out there desperate enough to claim him and take on his salary? Or do they option Arcia or DFA Franklin?


Do you think the Brewers will option Arcia in favor of Sogard?!


Not at this point no I would not expect that but it's an option (no pun intended). Sogard playing LF yesterday was not a good sign for Franklin.


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Posted: May 20, 2017, 9:18 AM Post
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Back end of the Brewers 'pen might be pretty darn good now with Barnes and Knebel. Find a 7th inning guy (Drake? Peralta?) that's reliable and you might have something here.

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Posted: May 20, 2017, 11:28 AM Post
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yfinn6 said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
Interesting decisions if they decide to keep Sogard up when Braun and Guerra are activated. Do they go back to 7 man pen and who's the odd man out? Feliz? Is there a team out there desperate enough to claim him and take on his salary? Or do they option Arcia or DFA Franklin?


Do you think the Brewers will option Arcia in favor of Sogard?!


I need to double quote this to emphasize it. I know you are just creating conversation ... but optioning Arcia to keep Sogard is stuff of soon to be fired GMs. Sogard and Nick Franklin are the same player. One of them can go and given Sogard's revival it will be Franklin.


Arcia wasn't even a good AAA hitter, if they send him there, it wouldn't be a bad move at all. It's for his development. They're not cutting him

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Posted: May 20, 2017, 11:35 AM Post
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Hader definitely would provide something the pen lacks, a lefty power arm even if they envision him starting in the not too distant future. Woodruff should remain a starter. He's ahead of Espino in the pecking order already but they just needed a spot start.


Let Hader develop in AAA, hopefully he can become a big league caliber starter someday.

This bullpen already got the major addition it needed in Peralta. He was down right awesome yesterday. The pen is full. When we reach July we finally start to have a normal amount of off days, then we'll be able to go back to a 7 man pen.

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Posted: May 20, 2017, 12:21 PM Post
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I think bringing up Hader to the pen in late August makes some sense. Keeps his innings down, gets him experience on a playoff team (assuming Brewers are still contending). Teams have done it before (Rays did it with Price back in the day)

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Posted: May 20, 2017, 1:04 PM Post
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Peralta could really solidify the BP. Woodruff is a starter or nothing.


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Posted: May 20, 2017, 1:41 PM Post
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I think bringing up Hader to the pen in late August makes some sense. Keeps his innings down, gets him experience on a playoff team (assuming Brewers are still contending). Teams have done it before (Rays did it with Price back in the day)


Was going to say this same thing. A perfect way for Hader to get his first taste of the big leagues in August. Pen could really use a guy like him.

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Posted: May 20, 2017, 2:12 PM Post
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Cravy up. Espino down.


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Posted: May 20, 2017, 2:57 PM Post
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homer said:
I think bringing up Hader to the pen in late August makes some sense. Keeps his innings down, gets him experience on a playoff team (assuming Brewers are still contending). Teams have done it before (Rays did it with Price back in the day)


Hader needs to build up his innings, not limit them.

Huge difference between him and Price. Price was dominating the minors, Hader has struggled at AAA.

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Posted: May 20, 2017, 3:05 PM Post
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homer said:
I think bringing up Hader to the pen in late August makes some sense. Keeps his innings down, gets him experience on a playoff team (assuming Brewers are still contending). Teams have done it before (Rays did it with Price back in the day)


Hader needs to build up his innings, not limit them.

Huge difference between him and Price. Price was dominating the minors, Hader has struggled at AAA.


Hader is already only 80 innings from hitting his total last year, we can only build them up so much in a year. If he continues to start regularly in AAA til August and then joins our pen the rest of the year there's no reason he can't finish around 150 innings which would be about right where we want him.

Not sure what Price dominating the minors has to do with Hader. Just because Hader hasn't excelled in the Colorado Springs rotation doesn't mean he can't pitch effectively out of the Brewer bullpen with his stuff, where many scouts think he will have far greater success anyway.


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