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Posted: May 11, 2017, 9:05 PM Post
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Isn't one of the main points of rebuilding trying to figure out what you have? Kirk is a known quantity. What do we learn by bringing him up for two weeks and DFAing him again after?

It's almost mid-May, we don't need to protect every single player in the organization from being a possible Super 2, especially when 2 weeks up isn't going to affect that anyway.

I mean at least with Wren, who isn't my first choice, you can give him a shot up here and see what happens with him.

Wren is buried behind good OF prospects, I get that, but the guy has an OBP over. 400 this year, and did last year as well. If you're really going to tell him that Kirk Nieuwenhuis is still a better option than him, you might as well go ahead and trade him to an OF needy team that wants to give him a shot.


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Posted: May 11, 2017, 9:09 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
Isn't one of the main points of rebuilding trying to figure out what you have? Kirk is a known quantity. What do we learn by bringing him up for two weeks and DFAing him again after?

It's almost mid-May, we don't need to protect every single player in the organization from being a possible Super 2, especially when 2 weeks up isn't going to affect that anyway.

I mean at least with Wren, who isn't my first choice, you can give him a shot up here and see what happens with him.

Wren is buried behind good OF prospects, I get that, but the guy has an OBP over. 400 this year, and did last year as well. If you're really going to tell him that Kirk Nieuwenhuis is still a better option than him, you might as well go ahead and trade him to an OF needy team that wants to give him a shot.


This team needs more veteran grit. Kirk provides that. He could be the missing piece that holds our team together. Don't fight it.


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They have quite a few guys on the roster already who can play LF(Perez/Thames) so I don't see why it has to even be an OF. If we are burning an option of an OFer by bringing them up then pick wisely. Might as well pick one guy to bounce up and down all year for OF injuries(which with Braun may be quite frequent).


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 6:14 AM Post
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Brew4U said:
adambr2 said:
Isn't one of the main points of rebuilding trying to figure out what you have? Kirk is a known quantity. What do we learn by bringing him up for two weeks and DFAing him again after?

It's almost mid-May, we don't need to protect every single player in the organization from being a possible Super 2, especially when 2 weeks up isn't going to affect that anyway.

I mean at least with Wren, who isn't my first choice, you can give him a shot up here and see what happens with him.

Wren is buried behind good OF prospects, I get that, but the guy has an OBP over. 400 this year, and did last year as well. If you're really going to tell him that Kirk Nieuwenhuis is still a better option than him, you might as well go ahead and trade him to an OF needy team that wants to give him a shot.


This team needs more veteran grit. Kirk provides that. He could be the missing piece that holds our team together. Don't fight it.


I'm all for veteran grit but Nieuwenhuis is not that guy. He's never been more than a fringe major leaguer. DeJesus or Sogard would provide more grit than Kirk.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 6:57 AM Post
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They have quite a few guys on the roster already who can play LF(Perez/Thames) so I don't see why it has to even be an OF. If we are burning an option of an OFer by bringing them up then pick wisely. Might as well pick one guy to bounce up and down all year for OF injuries(which with Braun may be quite frequent).


Good points, Franklin can play LF too. And you raise the question really, will they make this retro to an earlier date and Braun will only miss another 5-10 games, or will it be longer than that? And again, good point that this may not be the last time.

So, if it's only 10 more games (or less) they could easily just put Perez in LF basically full time and call up anyone- even another bullpen arm. This really shows how important the versatility is, because they really don't "need" any position player. More than anything, they need another bat for PH.

After sleeping on it, if they think it will be a little longer term, I say bring up Cordell and let him play LF full time. He's a little older, "behind" other OF prospects, etc., so this may be the only time to get a look at him. (And for the rest of MLB to get a look at him.) .500 or not, this is still a rebuilding year and Cordell is never going to be more "ready" than he is right now.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 7:09 AM Post
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MrTPlush said:
If we are burning an option of an OFer by bringing them up then pick wisely. Might as well pick one guy to bounce up and down all year for OF injuries(which with Braun may be quite frequent).


The guys on the 40 man (Phillips, Brinson, Cordell, Reed) have all used an option for the year already, so it doesn't matter how often you bounce them up and down this year.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 7:14 AM Post
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The call up will probably be a pitcher. Perez and Thames can play left.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 7:21 AM Post
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The call up will probably be a pitcher. Perez and Thames can play left.


Only problem is that you are down to only three bench players then.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 7:39 AM Post
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They already have too many pitchers, can't see it being a pitcher. Agree it could be any position player and not just OF, since Perez is going to be playing a bunch of OF maybe bringing up Rivera and his plus defense might be a decent option. Wouldn't even mind seeing Rivera and Wren up and DFA Franklin while they are at it. Just don't see them bringing up Brinson, Maverick, Cordell right now.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 8:38 AM Post
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The call up will probably be a pitcher. Perez and Thames can play left.

they have no bench as it is, i can't see it. that would mean 3 bench players. i would be shocked.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 9:16 AM Post
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patrickgpe said:
BrewersSuperCollector said:
The call up will probably be a pitcher. Perez and Thames can play left.

they have no bench as it is, i can't see it. that would mean 3 bench players. i would be shocked.


Agreed. No way they go with a 14 man pitching staff and a 3 man bench. They have more bats to choose from at this point anyway. A case can be made for 6 or 7 different bats. In fact as soon as the starters start going deeper consistently, they need to go back to a 5 man bench and one less arm.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 9:23 AM Post
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bork said:
MrTPlush said:
If we are burning an option of an OFer by bringing them up then pick wisely. Might as well pick one guy to bounce up and down all year for OF injuries(which with Braun may be quite frequent).


The guys on the 40 man (Phillips, Brinson, Cordell, Reed) have all used an option for the year already, so it doesn't matter how often you bounce them up and down this year.


They have just 39 on the 40 man as it is, so adding Wren who'd have a full complement of options at age 26, would not be an issue at all. Heck, he could bounce back and forth for the next 3 seasons ala Logan Schafer.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 9:26 AM Post
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also as you said there is no arm deserving of a roster spot that is on the 40 man, if you say Cravy his ERA is 5.06 right now. but he would be the only logical one.

A case could be made on performance alone for Phillips, Brinson, Cooper, Cordell or Wren.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 9:46 AM Post
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patrickgpe said:
also as you said there is no arm deserving of a roster spot that is on the 40 man, if you say Cravy his ERA is 5.06 right now. but he would be the only logical one.

A case could be made on performance alone for Phillips, Brinson, Cooper, Cordell or Wren.


I'm not sure what more people want to see our of Lopez at AA, but he is probably ready for his next developmental step.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 10:04 AM Post

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i am hoping it's kyle wren, but would not be surprised to see yadiel rivera recalled. jonathan villar needs some time off, and rivera can start at second and hernan perez in left.


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JohnBriggs12 said:
They have just 39 on the 40 man as it is, so adding Wren who'd have a full complement of options at age 26, would not be an issue at all. Heck, he could bounce back and forth for the next 3 seasons ala Logan Schafer.

if wren is optioned for more than 20 days this season, he could bounce back and forth for only two more seasons.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 10:11 AM Post
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Surprised nothing official has been said yet. I would hope that the player being called up is already on a plane to Milwaukee.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 10:18 AM Post
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Lets get creative. Regardless of who's replacing him, Braun's absence is significant offensively. Arcia is struggling now too (5 for his last 33). Why not DL Braun, option Arcia, and call up Rivera and Brinson? Play Perez at SS to keep his bat in lineup and have Brinson leadoff and play LF? Then move Villar down to the 8th spot? Use Rivera for double switches and late inning defense at SS. Once Braun is back you can also return a hopefully more confident Arcia who's had a couple weeks seeing AAA pitching. Brinson gets the benefit of hitting ahead of Thames or stick the hot Broxton at number 2, Thames at 3, then Shaw followed by Santana/Perez in either order.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 10:24 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
Lets get creative. Regardless of who's replacing him, Braun's absence is significant offensively. Arcia is struggling now too (5 for his last 33). Why not DL Braun, option Arcia, and call up Rivera and Brinson? Play Perez at SS to keep his bat in lineup and have Brinson leadoff and play LF? Then move Villar down to the 8th spot? Use Rivera for double switches and late inning defense at SS. Once Braun is back you can also return a hopefully more confident Arcia who's had a couple weeks seeing AAA pitching.


Creative. I'll give you that. But it's not happening. Villar will be at or near the top of the lineup most likely and Arcia is going no where. He is your shortstop now and for probably the near future.


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Posted: May 12, 2017, 10:26 AM Post
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You don't bring up a young guy to fill a bench spot and not get regular ABs for what is likely a short DL stint. I know people are chomping at the bit to see some prospects but it just doesn't make sense to interrupt their routine just to sit on a bench in the majors. The team has too many players when fully healthy and Counsell is struggling to get them all enough playing time. This is a chance to give them all enough playing time.


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