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Posted: July 07, 2017, 7:57 AM Post
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With this morning's report that the Brewers are preparing for the possibility of adding a Quintana/Gray-type starting pitcher, what do you foresee the starting rotation looking like after the trade deadline? All the guys in the rotation are either doing well/holding their own or are expected to be better than they have been, so who's out and who takes their place?

I could see them doing pretty much nothing and keeping a rotation of Nelson, Anderson, Davies, Guerra, Garza, but I'll take a crack at something more interesting:

- Trade Ray, Ortiz, Phillips, + nugget for Quintana
- Garza continues to pitch well and they flip him for a bullpen arm (not closer, not setup, but "Barnes"/3rd guy up type)
- Send Guerra down to the minors to get straightened out
- Anderson and Woodruff come back from the DL

August 1st rotation: Quintana, Nelson, Anderson, Davies, Woodruff


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Posted: July 07, 2017, 8:09 AM Post
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I think we trade less and get Sonny Gray. Oakland seems to like to trade mid season more than most teams so I expect it is easier to get a deal done. The White Sox tend to hold out a lot more so I think Quintana goes for way more than he should.

Gray, Nelson, Anderson, Davies, Garza


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Posted: July 07, 2017, 8:27 AM Post
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ROTATION
TOR Trade Acquisition- cost controlled for multiple years
Nelson
Anderson
Davies
Garza

We end up holding on to Garza- he pitches averagely for us down the stretch and are able to trade him in the offseason. Guerra is moved to the bullpen after we acquire our TOR and becomes dominant and helps shore up the bullpen negating the need to acquire high cost relief help.

BULLPEN
Knebel
Barnes
Guerra
Hader
Hughes
Woodruff
Blazek
Peralta- is given one last shot after DL stint and rewards the Brewers by not allowing a run the rest of the season. why not? lol

apologies to Drake, Suter, T-Will, Lopez, Wang, Jungmann


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Posted: July 07, 2017, 9:03 AM Post
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No need to apologize for Wang. lol


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Posted: July 07, 2017, 9:44 AM Post
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I won't bite on the TOR starter hype, but I do think either Davies/Guerra get booted by then.

Nelson
Anderson
Garza
Davies
Woodruff


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Posted: July 07, 2017, 10:17 AM Post
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Nelson
Anderson
Garza
Davies
Suter

Think we stand pat. Will give Suter the edge as the current spot holder and to try to stick a lefty in, though Jungmann and Blazek might have a shot. One or two adds via trade will be bullpen arms. Woodruff's missed time will set him back a bit. Guerra winds up on the DL or in AAA.


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Posted: July 07, 2017, 11:37 AM Post
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Nelson, Davies, Quintana, Garza and Woodruff.

Anderson gets back in mid August replacing Garza or Woodruff.

Brewers deal Hader, Broxton, and Ray for Quintana. Brinson is in CF. Suter returns to pen to occupy Hader's current role.

Don't know how you can take Davies out of the rotation. Yeah, his ERA is high, but he's a 10 game winner, undefeated on the road and the team is 12-6 in his starts and his 3-0 with a 2.84 ERA in his last 3 starts.


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Posted: July 07, 2017, 1:48 PM Post
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Interesting how Junior Guerra is not poping up in any of these August 1st rotations so far.


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Posted: July 08, 2017, 10:02 PM Post
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I'm hoping they don't go for a starter. You have to give up too much to get starters mid-season, and that's just for a rental. Getting a guy for multiple years will cost even more. I think any deal that happens will include Ray, and in the end he should be the highest prospect they include. Brinson, Phillips should not be touched. With that said, I know prospects are just that: prospects(Matt LaPorta/Mat Gamel). I think they need to get a bullpen arm that will shorten up the game for the starters. Don't upset team chemistry and not give up the future.


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Posted: July 09, 2017, 7:08 AM Post
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Nelson, Suter, Davies, Anderson, Garza


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Posted: July 09, 2017, 7:19 AM Post
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clancyphile said:
Nelson, Suter, Davies, Anderson, Garza


Clancy, have to hand it to you. Suter is looking like the second coming of Mark Beuhrle. If he keeps that up, he'll have a spot. But they'll still trade for Quintana, and say thanks to Garza as he's dispatched.


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Posted: July 09, 2017, 8:38 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
clancyphile said:
Nelson, Suter, Davies, Anderson, Garza


Clancy, have to hand it to you. Suter is looking like the second coming of Mark Beuhrle. If he keeps that up, he'll have a spot. But they'll still trade for Quintana, and say thanks to Garza as he's dispatched.


I'm worried that they will overpay for Quintana and/or Gray.


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Posted: July 09, 2017, 8:51 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
clancyphile said:
Nelson, Suter, Davies, Anderson, Garza


Clancy, have to hand it to you. Suter is looking like the second coming of Mark Beuhrle. If he keeps that up, he'll have a spot. But they'll still trade for Quintana, and say thanks to Garza as he's dispatched.


Garza is valuable as a #5. He's not going anywhere.


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Posted: July 09, 2017, 10:36 AM Post
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superfly said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
clancyphile said:
Nelson, Suter, Davies, Anderson, Garza


Clancy, have to hand it to you. Suter is looking like the second coming of Mark Beuhrle. If he keeps that up, he'll have a spot. But they'll still trade for Quintana, and say thanks to Garza as he's dispatched.


Garza is valuable as a #5. He's not going anywhere.


Could Woodruff be a cheaper option?


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Posted: July 09, 2017, 10:40 AM Post
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Suter has been good but has faced two teams that have never seen him so not going to rush to judge yet


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Posted: July 11, 2017, 8:21 PM Post
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Nelson, Guerra, Garza, Davies, Anderson...Suter, Woodruff, Espino, Blazek to fill in for injuries.
The big trade doesn't happen...steady she goes...


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 12:11 PM Post
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With the injuries to Anderson and Woodruff, plus not knowing about Guerra things are tough to predict. Suter also throws another wrench into the predictions.

Nelson
Anderson
Garza
Woodruff (possibly a week or two later depending on injury but I think he'll end up sticking)
Davies


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 12:48 PM Post
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Nelson, Garza, Davies, Suter and Guerra.

I don't see us making a big move. When Anderson comes back, we'll see who gets shipped to AAA or the bullpen (either Suter or Guerra is my guess).


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Posted: July 15, 2017, 1:29 PM Post
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Just an aside: In the annals of pitcher W-L records that are vastly inflated due to run support, Zach Davies' 2017 makes Pete Vuckovich's 1982 look like a Cy Young season. Oh wait . . .


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Posted: July 15, 2017, 3:11 PM Post
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Guerra has a 7.15 FiP. He won't be a starter on a team trying to make the playoffs.


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