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Posted: July 14, 2017, 5:15 PM Post
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Bob Nightengale tweeted the Brewers pursuit of Jose Quintana was a serious one. Will be interesting to see if Stearns can nab one of the remaining top of the rotation starters. At least ones fancier than a mid rotation guy.


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Posted: July 14, 2017, 5:25 PM Post
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NievesNoNO said:
I don't think the Cubs have the necessary minor league prospects for Gray. They do have young MLB guys, as others have mentioned. Happ straight up would be an excellent get for the A's, imo.


After what the White sox just got for a controlled starter, there is no way in hell Beane would accept that. He is looking for something similar to the Quintana trade and i don't blame him.



He might be but I don't think he'll get it. Gray doesn't have the same track record as Quintana and is controllable for one fewer season. I just think a 22 year old middle infielder who's already proven he can hit MLB pitching with 25-30 hr power upside is a pretty valuable thing.


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Posted: July 14, 2017, 6:01 PM Post
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Bob Nightengale tweeted the Brewers pursuit of Jose Quintana was a serious one. Will be interesting to see if Stearns can nab one of the remaining top of the rotation starters. At least ones fancier than a mid rotation guy.

The CSN Chicago White Sox Podcast from yesterday is an interesting listen. They speculate that the Brewers may have been the team that was primarily in contact with Rick Hahn leading up to Quintana's start on Friday night. More concretely if you go to around the 7:30 mark they discuss when things heated up on Sunday which is also apparently when the Cubs started to get seriously involved, and at the 9:00 minute mark they mention that they know without a doubt that the Brewers (and Braves) were at the finish line or "the five yard line" to use a football analogy.


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MrTPlush said:
Bob Nightengale tweeted the Brewers pursuit of Jose Quintana was a serious one. Will be interesting to see if Stearns can nab one of the remaining top of the rotation starters. At least ones fancier than a mid rotation guy.

The CSN Chicago White Sox Podcast from yesterday is an interesting listen. They speculate that the Brewers may have been the team that was primarily in contact with Rick Hahn leading up to Quintana's start on Friday night. More concretely if you go to around the 7:30 mark they discuss when things heated up on Sunday which is also apparently when the Cubs started to get seriously involved, and at the 9:00 minute mark they mention that they know without a doubt that the Brewers (and Braves) were at the finish line or "the five yard line" to use a football analogy.


Thanks for the link! One must wonder if the Brewers success this year played heavily in the Cubs decision to pull the trigger.


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Posted: July 14, 2017, 7:00 PM Post
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The Braves offer for Quintana included SS Ozzie Albies (Link) so if the Brewers were seriously in the mix I have to assume their offer included at least one of Hader or Brinson. Just speculation, but I would guess that Corey Ray was in the mix as well.


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NSBB is giving some of you guys the business about this thread if you care...


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NSBB is giving some of you guys the business about this thread if you care...

Never heard of it, but it sounds miserable.


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Posted: July 14, 2017, 8:15 PM Post
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Some things about forums I just don't get. One of the main ones is people who enjoy frequenting other team's forums. Even worse is when they make an account. Why? You must either really like arguing or your team's forum really sucks that much. I just will never understand the attraction.


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Posted: July 14, 2017, 9:17 PM Post
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I can see going to another team's forum to see what they thought of the trade. But in this case, it would be the White Sox. Seeing what we think of the trade is a bit odd...


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Posted: July 15, 2017, 1:33 PM Post
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I tried going there to see what was happening, but my eyeballs exploded between all of the ads, obnoxious jpegs, gifs, and quotes of quotes of quotes. It's kind of like a message board representation of going to a game at Wrigley Field.


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Posted: July 15, 2017, 1:49 PM Post
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I tried going there to see what was happening, but my eyeballs exploded between all of the ads, obnoxious jpegs, gifs, and quotes of quotes of quotes. It's kind of like a message board representation of going to a game at Wrigley Field.


Except without the wetbutt.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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Posted: July 15, 2017, 2:34 PM Post
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I can see going to another team's forum to see what they thought of the trade. But in this case, it would be the White Sox. Seeing what we think of the trade is a bit odd...


It would be natural for those fans to come over here for a look as the Brewers are ahead of the Cubs in the standings. Get the temp & feel type of thing.
Strange would by those same fans checking a Reds or Tigers board.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:48 PM Post
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Sure glad that Quintana guy is mediocre.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 6:20 PM Post
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Sure glad that Quintana guy is mediocre.



Yes because shutting down a completely dysfunctional Orioles offense means you are a super star. Quintana gave up the same number of runs against them that Garza did to use one example.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 9:47 PM Post
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82brewcrew82 said:
Sure glad that Quintana guy is mediocre.



Yes because shutting down a completely dysfunctional Orioles offense means you are a super star. Quintana gave up the same number of runs against them that Garza did to use one example.

It's ok to say that Quintana pitched a fabulous game. That same Orioles offense scored eight runs on the Cubs pitching the night before.

Time will tell on how he does going forward.


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Posted: July 27, 2017, 12:38 PM Post
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Being reported that the offer was Ray and Ortiz for Jose Quintana


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Being reported that the offer was Ray and Ortiz for Jose Quintana


Source?


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Posted: July 27, 2017, 1:03 PM Post
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mlloyd10 said:
Being reported that the offer was Ray and Ortiz for Jose Quintana


Source?


This was the only place I found it.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/25/the-yankees-prospects-as-covet-in-sonny-gray-sweepstakes/


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Posted: July 27, 2017, 1:27 PM Post
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Being reported that the offer was Ray and Ortiz for Jose Quintana


That's not a bad package, but not close to what the Cubs gave up. I'm glad we didn't try to match the Cubs' offer. They have a lot of young talent at the MLB level and an unlimited check book, so they can make that deal. The Brewers couldn't afford to pay that much in talent, so kudos to Stearns/Attanasio for understanding that would have been a big overpay for them.

"The most successful (people) know that performance over the long haul is what counts. If you can seize the day, great. But never forget that there are days yet to come."

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Posted: July 27, 2017, 2:54 PM Post
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If you can take something away from a direct competitor it has extra value - not just the gain to you, but the loss to the competitor.


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