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Posted: August 22, 2017, 9:11 AM Post

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a nod to this thread, the 2017 brewers have thus far avoided using the 60-day disabled list.

as we all know, putting a player on the 60-day disabled list removes him from the 40-man roster. when he's activated, he has to be added back to the 40-man or outrighted.

the 40-man is currently full, so there's an advantage in putting a player on the 60-day disabled list to open up another spot.

jett bandy, andrew susac and brent suter are all currently on the 10-day disabled list. bandy and suter are expected to be activated in september.

the extent of susac's injury is unknown at this point. it's possible that he could be deemed lost for the rest of the season and transferred to the 60-day disabled list.

lewis brinson could be recalled not to report and placed on the 60-day disabled list, but then he'd not play another game this season. the brewers hadn't ruled out a mid to late september return for brinson.

adrian houser has started a minor league rehab assignment with the azl brewers. had he not started that assignment, he could have been a candidate to be recalled (not to report) and put on the 60-day disabled list. he would've accrued major league pay and service time for that duration.

of course, another player on the 25-man could go down with a season-ending injury to necessitate a 60-day disabled list move.


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Posted: August 22, 2017, 3:58 PM Post
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With Houser and Brinson, they could do that but they'd have to pay them a ton more cash and they'd accrue service time.


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Posted: August 22, 2017, 8:39 PM Post
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DHonks said:
With Houser and Brinson, they could do that but they'd have to pay them a ton more cash and they'd accrue service time.

But by not doing so they burn an option, correct?


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Posted: August 22, 2017, 9:08 PM Post
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LouisEly said:
DHonks said:
With Houser and Brinson, they could do that but they'd have to pay them a ton more cash and they'd accrue service time.

But by not doing so they burn an option, correct?



yes. But teams have to figure out if an option is worth it. I guess I'm trusting they've done their own analysis on this. If Houser were on the 60-day DL this year, he'd be making ~$500,000. Instead he's making far less. What's a 3rd year 40-man roster guy make? Maybe $60-80k? Remember Jeff D'Amico--being injured in MLB--wound up with nearly 10 years of MLB service time.

With Brinson, the service time isn't as big of a deal, as it's only a few weeks. Really they could likely transfer both at this point in time. But it's something clubs need to debate internally


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Posted: August 23, 2017, 5:26 AM Post

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LouisEly said:
DHonks said:
With Houser and Brinson, they could do that but they'd have to pay them a ton more cash and they'd accrue service time.

But by not doing so they burn an option, correct?

players burn an option if they stay optioned to the minor leagues for more than 20 days in a season. since houser and brinson were both optioned in spring training, they both burned their 2017 options in april. they also earn the minor league salary of their split contract (major league salary and minor league salary).


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Posted: August 23, 2017, 5:52 AM Post
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The 60-day DL can't be used in the offseason either.

Fan is short for fanatic.
I blame Wang.


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Posted: August 23, 2017, 6:47 AM Post

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logan82 said:
The 60-day DL can't be used in the offseason either.

correct . . . which puts the texas rangers at a disadvantage for the next few years. presumably, in order to be able to collect insurance on prince fielder's contract, they cannot release him. thus, they have to carry fielder on their 40-man (instead of a prospect) during the offseason. during the season, they can place fielder on the 60-day disabled list to open up a spot on their 40-man.


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Posted: August 23, 2017, 7:07 AM Post
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If the Brewers want a third catcher and Bandy isn't ready I imagine Susac has a pretty good chance of landing on the 60 day DL.


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Posted: August 27, 2017, 5:49 AM Post

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djoctagone said:
a nod to this thread, the 2017 brewers have thus far avoided using the 60-day disabled list.

the extent of susac's injury is unknown at this point. it's possible that he could be deemed lost for the rest of the season and transferred to the 60-day disabled list.

susac is expected to start a minor league rehab assignment this week and likely will be activated in september.


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Posted: September 04, 2017, 7:14 AM Post

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jett bandy, andrew susac and brent suter avoid the 60-day disabled list.

lewis brinson could still be recalled and then placed on the 60-day disabled list, but then the brewers could not use him at all again in 2017.

another player could still go down with a season-ending injury (i.e. keon broxton last september crashing into the ivy at wrigley field), but at this point, it looks like the 2017 brewers will avoid the 60-day disabled list.


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Posted: September 09, 2017, 1:29 PM Post

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ugh. jimmy nelson certainly a candidate to be placed on the 60-day disabled list. it would open up a roster spot.


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Posted: September 09, 2017, 3:56 PM Post
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Jimmy to the 60 and Wilkerson to the 40 and MLB is my guess.


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Posted: September 13, 2017, 5:47 AM Post

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unusual in that the brewers have yet to place nelson on the 60-day disabled list to open up a roster spot for an internal promotion. perhaps the club is being patient hoping for a trade or waiver claim?


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Posted: September 15, 2017, 6:10 PM Post

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in order for aaron wilkerson to be eligible for postseason play, jimmy nelson needed to be placed on the 10-day disabled list, not the 60-day disabled list.

thus, the brewers chose to dfa another player instead of placing nelson on the 60-day disabled list.

the 2017 brewers may indeed avoid using the 60-day disabled list.


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Posted: September 26, 2017, 8:28 AM Post
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Given that Jimmy is still on the 40 man, is there any logical reason that he was not placed on the 60 day DL and a spot given to someone like DeJesus who was pretty much totally expendable anyway and could have given us an extra bench bat?

I realize you have to pay the guy the prorated minimum which would have been 50-75K or whatever and he wouldn't have been playoff eligible, but neither of those things seem very consequential in a pennant race when you're in desperate need of winning every game and we've had extra inning games where we've burned through our entire bench.


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Posted: September 26, 2017, 9:39 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Given that Jimmy is still on the 40 man, is there any logical reason that he was not placed on the 60 day DL and a spot given to someone like DeJesus who was pretty much totally expendable anyway and could have given us an extra bench bat?

I realize you have to pay the guy the prorated minimum which would have been 50-75K or whatever and he wouldn't have been playoff eligible, but neither of those things seem very consequential in a pennant race when you're in desperate need of winning every game and we've had extra inning games where we've burned through our entire bench.

I thought this would have been an obvious move. Really suprised a move hasn't been made already. We have had games where our whole bench has been used. I'd much rather call someone up and not use them, then have Susac or Bandy take any meaningful AB's.


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Posted: September 26, 2017, 10:03 AM Post
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I think it was mentioned as some sort of obscure rule about the playoff roster.


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Posted: September 26, 2017, 10:33 AM Post

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young guns said:
I think it was mentioned as some sort of obscure rule about the playoff roster.

that's been acknowledged.

adambr2 said:
I realize you have to pay the guy the prorated minimum which would have been 50-75K or whatever and he wouldn't have been playoff eligible, but neither of those things seem very consequential in a pennant race when you're in desperate need of winning every game and we've had extra inning games where we've burned through our entire bench.


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Posted: October 02, 2017, 5:10 PM Post

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well, for the first time in a really, really long time, the brewers did not use the 60-day disabled list.

for the most part, brewers players did not suffer serious injuries in 2017. that certainly had a hand in their success this year.


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