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Yelich to the Brewers in exchange for Brinson, Isan Diaz, M. Harrison and Yamamoto

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Posted: June 19, 2019, 7:30 AM Post
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Funny the Brewers probably would have never drafted Yamamoto had it not been for them scouting Medeiros so hard in Hawaii for that 2014 draft. Turns our Yamamoto was the real gem and Medeiros was a total bust.


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Posted: June 19, 2019, 8:08 AM Post
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Funny the Brewers probably would have never drafted Yamamoto had it not been for them scouting Medeiros so hard in Hawaii for that 2014 draft. Turns our Yamamoto was the real gem and Medeiros was a total bust.


I disagree that Medeiros was a bust. He brought back Soria in a trade, and Soria was a huge part of the shutdown pen in September that they rode to the playoffs. He has not looked good so far for AA Birmingham in the White Sox system, though.


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Posted: June 19, 2019, 8:16 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
MrTPlush said:
Funny the Brewers probably would have never drafted Yamamoto had it not been for them scouting Medeiros so hard in Hawaii for that 2014 draft. Turns our Yamamoto was the real gem and Medeiros was a total bust.


I disagree that Medeiros was a bust. He brought back Soria in a trade, and Soria was a huge part of the shutdown pen in September that they rode to the playoffs. He has not looked good so far for AA Birmingham in the White Sox system, though.


He had an ERA north of 6 in September/October last year and was a human trash can in the NLCS too. Soria was pretty terrible for us and the fact two months of a reliever is all our former #12 could net us is a solid sign he was a bust for us. Not to mention he was pretty expensive on top of that.

I mean, sure, he was apart of the shutdown pen. He wasn't the shutdown part of it though.


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Posted: June 19, 2019, 8:26 AM Post
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MrTPlush said:
Joey Meyer Bombs said:
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Funny the Brewers probably would have never drafted Yamamoto had it not been for them scouting Medeiros so hard in Hawaii for that 2014 draft. Turns our Yamamoto was the real gem and Medeiros was a total bust.


I disagree that Medeiros was a bust. He brought back Soria in a trade, and Soria was a huge part of the shutdown pen in September that they rode to the playoffs. He has not looked good so far for AA Birmingham in the White Sox system, though.


He had an ERA north of 6 in September/October last year and was a human trash can in the NLCS too. Soria was pretty terrible for us and the fact two months of a reliever is all our former #12 could net us is a solid sign he was a bust for us. Not to mention he was pretty expensive on top of that.

I mean, sure, he was apart of the shutdown pen. He wasn't the shutdown part of it though.


Yeah, i guess when you qualify it that way, that makes sense. But when you consider that this team has drafted the likes of Mark Rogers, Evan Fredrickson, Eric Arnett, Kentrail Davis, Kyle Heckathorn, Dylan Covey, Taylor Jungmann, Jed Bradley, Clint Coulter, and Victor Roache in the 1st round over the last 15 years, getting a half season of a decent reliever doesn't sound too bad. Of course, that is more of an indictment of how poorly this team has drafted in the 1st round than anything. But if Medeiros continues down his path, that deal was a decent example of making lemonade out of a lemon. It certainly wasn't a good pick.


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Posted: June 19, 2019, 8:40 AM Post
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I'm gonna pump the brakes on a Yamamoto breakout until he has a bit of sustained success. He may be a gem but it's gonna take more than two really nice starts to prove that.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: June 21, 2019, 4:42 PM Post
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Going into tonight’s game Christian Yelich has a home run every 9.035 at bats this season. That would rank 11th all-time in the history of baseball for a single season if he continues the same pace the remainder of the season (B-Ref Link). The current list is a combination of PED users and Babe Ruth...

Rank	Player (age that year)	AB per HR	Year
1. Barry Bonds (36) 6.52 2001
2. Mark McGwire (34) 7.27 1998
3. Mark McGwire (35) 8.02 1999
4. Mark McGwire (32) 8.13 1996
5. Barry Bonds (39) 8.29 2004
6. Babe Ruth (25) 8.48 1920
7. Barry Bonds (38) 8.67 2003
8. Barry Bonds (37) 8.76 2002
9. Babe Ruth (32) 9.00 1927
10. Sammy Sosa (32) 9.02 2001
11. Babe Ruth (26) 9.15 1921


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 8:42 PM Post
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Random Yelich question now:

If you could trade Yelich for any one, but only one player in MLB, would you do it? Straight up trade, with all existing club control and contract going to acquiring team.


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Posted: June 26, 2019, 5:59 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Random Yelich question now:

If you could trade Yelich for any one, but only one player in MLB, would you do it? Straight up trade, with all existing club control and contract going to acquiring team.


I don’t see a single person I would. Cost controlled for 3 more years. And really only Trout is better than him (Bellinger has been coming back to the mean). The thing for MKE and Trout is the amount of money owed. Basically Yelich costs a third of the price and getting relatively similar production. Also love the fact he’s left handed. Still think Trout is easily the best player in the game...yelich would be second. His team friendly contract makes him all the more valuable.


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Posted: June 26, 2019, 6:39 AM Post
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Eye Black said:
Going into tonight’s game Christian Yelich has a home run every 9.035 at bats this season. That would rank 11th all-time in the history of baseball for a single season if he continues the same pace the remainder of the season (B-Ref Link). The current list is a combination of PED users and Babe Ruth...




Are you suggesting that hot dogs, beer, and cigars are not PEDS? [laughing]


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Posted: June 26, 2019, 6:49 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Random Yelich question now:

If you could trade Yelich for any one, but only one player in MLB, would you do it? Straight up trade, with all existing club control and contract going to acquiring team.


Ronald Acuna is signed for 8 seasons so I would take him over Yelich. You can probably also argue for guys like Tatis Jr and Vlad Jr who all have far more contractual control than Yelich. Clearly I would take Yelich over all of them for the next few years but I don't know how you can choose him over someone like Acuna who is locked up for far longer.


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Posted: June 26, 2019, 7:23 AM Post
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Acuna is an intersting idea. The question becomes do you expect Acuna to continue to be an 850 to 900 OPS guy, and I would say yes and then some. He hasn't even begun to hit his prime yet. The next question is do you expect Yelich to continue to be an 1150 OPS guy for the rest of his years of Team control, and do you expect the Brewers to contend for the next three or four years while the Brewers have him under team control?


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Posted: June 26, 2019, 7:38 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Random Yelich question now:

If you could trade Yelich for any one, but only one player in MLB, would you do it? Straight up trade, with all existing club control and contract going to acquiring team.


Yadier Molina


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Posted: June 26, 2019, 11:04 AM Post
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I would trade Yelich for Giannis.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: June 27, 2019, 8:24 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Random Yelich question now:

If you could trade Yelich for any one, but only one player in MLB, would you do it? Straight up trade, with all existing club control and contract going to acquiring team.


I think the only players I'd even consider something like this would be young position players primed to be MVP-caliber talents, who either are still pre-arbitration or are signed to very friendly contracts. Guys like Acuna Jr., Vlad Jr., Bellinger perhaps, maybe even Wander Franco of the Rays. Pitchers carry too much injury risk, and other veteran studs are either too expensive or aren't as good as Yelich.


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Posted: June 27, 2019, 10:25 PM Post
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Jordan Yamamoto was the piece of this deal that terrified me. I continue to hate that inclusion. He was a lesser piece in the deal who could end up being worth much more than he was at the time. So far, yikes.


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Posted: June 27, 2019, 11:19 PM Post
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TJseven7 said:
Jordan Yamamoto was the piece of this deal that terrified me. I continue to hate that inclusion. He was a lesser piece in the deal who could end up being worth much more than he was at the time. So far, yikes.

We got a guy who has made 2 All Star teams and won 1 MVP in a season and a half for a guy who hit .197 and got demoted to AAA, 2 other guys who haven't appeared above AAA, and a 4tb guy who has made 3 good MLB starts. Sorry if I'm not worried about the loss of any of them.


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Posted: June 27, 2019, 11:46 PM Post
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I’d maybe deal Yelich for someone like Juan Soto. Young, controllable MVP-caliber talent. Great contact hitter, power, speed. Watching him at the plate blows my mind considering his youth. He’s a professional hitter and kind of flies under the radar compared to the Acuña’s/Guerrero’s etc.


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Posted: June 28, 2019, 1:28 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
MrTPlush said:
Funny the Brewers probably would have never drafted Yamamoto had it not been for them scouting Medeiros so hard in Hawaii for that 2014 draft. Turns our Yamamoto was the real gem and Medeiros was a total bust.


I disagree that Medeiros was a bust. He brought back Soria in a trade, and Soria was a huge part of the shutdown pen in September that they rode to the playoffs. He has not looked good so far for AA Birmingham in the White Sox system, though.


Whether or not a guy was traded before it was apparent he was a bust does not make him less of a bust. At this point Yamamoto looks to have a much better future.


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Posted: June 28, 2019, 1:29 AM Post
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MrTPlush said:
Joey Meyer Bombs said:
MrTPlush said:
Funny the Brewers probably would have never drafted Yamamoto had it not been for them scouting Medeiros so hard in Hawaii for that 2014 draft. Turns our Yamamoto was the real gem and Medeiros was a total bust.


I disagree that Medeiros was a bust. He brought back Soria in a trade, and Soria was a huge part of the shutdown pen in September that they rode to the playoffs. He has not looked good so far for AA Birmingham in the White Sox system, though.


He had an ERA north of 6 in September/October last year and was a human trash can in the NLCS too. Soria was pretty terrible for us and the fact two months of a reliever is all our former #12 could net us is a solid sign he was a bust for us. Not to mention he was pretty expensive on top of that.

I mean, sure, he was apart of the shutdown pen. He wasn't the shutdown part of it though.


He had a FIP of 2.93 as a Brewer


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Posted: June 28, 2019, 3:59 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Random Yelich question now:

If you could trade Yelich for any one, but only one player in MLB, would you do it? Straight up trade, with all existing club control and contract going to acquiring team.


Mike Trout. Yeah I know, that's one massive contract, but it's still Mike Trout. The one guy who's definitely better than Yelich, the guy that is already HoF-worthy.

The man's two worst offensive seasons by OPS+ were 2012 and 2014, where he had a 168 OPS+. To put that into a Brewers perspective, that's more than Ryan Braun, Paul Molitor, Robin Young and Christian Yelich (Though 2019 will change that) have ever had over a full season. In those two years, his worst years, he won RoY and MVP. One year that OPS+ lead the league. In the other it didn't, but he did lead the league in runs scored, RBIs and total bases. Mike Trout, at his worst, is an MVP. As amazing as Yelich has been over the last year, Trout has been that player for 8 years now. And he does this while playing a well above average CF.

You could make a decent argument for younger guys like Acuña, Soto, Bellinger. But I'd still prefer what we already have in Yelich. But the best player of this generation? I couldn't turn that down.


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