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Posted: April 20, 2018, 8:04 AM Post
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A day off or 2 might help, but it's a little too early for the Broxton treatment yet, given how he has done over the course of the past 2 years.


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Posted: April 21, 2018, 1:04 PM Post
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A few days off would be a good thing for Santana. As pointed out, had a super slow start last year and really picked it up. I am betting on that again. Domingo will be fine. All I know is all this depth at OF/1B is really paying off so far with injuries/slow starts.

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Posted: April 25, 2018, 5:44 AM Post
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Not going to be much of a logjam if that MRI comes back with bad news today in Thames.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 6:01 AM Post
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Brew4U said:
Not going to be much of a logjam if that MRI comes back with bad news today in Thames.


Will probably mean we'll see more of Braun at 1B, and possibly the return of Choi. Neither are ideal, considering how hot Thames has been. Hopefully it's nothing too serious, but Counsell didn't seem overly optimistic last night.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 6:21 AM Post
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Although we have good depth at 1st, Thames' bat is a real tough loss. Choi is a definite possibility, although his numbers in AAA haven't been really inspiring. They could also promote someone like Phillips and transition Braun more to 1st.

All of this is still hypothetical. Maybe we get good news on Thames. But thumbs are so tricky and as we've seen with Braun, having him try to play through it isn't going to go well. I'd prefer them to just DL him and have him take whatever time he needs to heal up. Even if that means he isn't back until midseason.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 6:23 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
Brew4U said:
Not going to be much of a logjam if that MRI comes back with bad news today in Thames.


Will probably mean we'll see more of Braun at 1B, and possibly the return of Choi. Neither are ideal, considering how hot Thames has been. Hopefully it's nothing too serious, but Counsell didn't seem overly optimistic last night.


Choi hasn’t exactly lit the world on fire so it’ll be interesting to see who the call up is.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 6:42 AM Post
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I would still guess Choi's lefty bat plays as a call-up. Aguilar/Braun get most starts, but you have Choi to pinch-hit late.

It might make sense to call up another bullpen arm too and just stick with Braun and Aguilar, but Santana isn't exactly making a case for more PT.

I am guessing Thames is DL'd for sure. Just hoping it is 2-4 weeks instead of something requiring surgery.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 6:52 AM Post
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Although we have good depth at 1st, Thames' bat is a real tough loss. Choi is a definite possibility, although his numbers in AAA haven't been really inspiring. They could also promote someone like Phillips and transition Braun more to 1st.

All of this is still hypothetical. Maybe we get good news on Thames. But thumbs are so tricky and as we've seen with Braun, having him try to play through it isn't going to go well. I'd prefer them to just DL him and have him take whatever time he needs to heal up. Even if that means he isn't back until midseason.


I'm a huge Phillips fan, so I certainly wouldn't mind him coming up. If he does, though, I would think it would be to play regularly. I don't think they would pull him up as a rarely-used bench bat.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 7:43 AM Post
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If Thames is out, 1B is covered with Aguilar, Braun, and Perez already on the roster so I don't think Choi is the for sure callup. I think I'd prefer Phillips as he provides a lefty bat, speed, he's an actual backup CF, and plays good defense all around.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 8:37 AM Post
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If Thames goes on the DL, they don't need Choi up - I'd rather go with Phillips or adding another pen arm (Lopez or Houser). Vogt is getting closer, too - he'd provide another LH bench bat after he'd send Bandy out not too long from now.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the MRI doesn't reveal something that needs surgery or a long DL stint. My hope if Thames does hit the DL is that it opens up more consistent ABs for Santana to finally get going - and aside from the RH/LH hitting difference the offense doesn't miss a beat.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 8:49 AM Post
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Yea juggle Braun, Santana, Aguilar, Phillips. More starts for Braun at 1B, which is actually a good opportunity for him early in the season. He needs to get comfortable there, as he may not have much of a choice down the road a year or two.

Plus, having those four players shuffle between the OF/1B will ensure nobody will ever be happy with any line-up posted in the IGT.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 10:05 AM Post
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Count me as another voting for Phillips.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 10:51 AM Post
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My guess is that they'll use this to ultimately find a spot for Vogt as a bench bat/3rd catcher/once-in-a-while-because-he's-a-gritty-veteran 1B.

There might be a little time in between when Thames goes on the DL and when Vogt's rehab assignment is complete, so maybe they'll call up Philips or Choi for a few days, but I don't think they'll stick, as the organization seems to like Bandy and Vogt, and this will buy them time in trying to figure out what to do with one of them.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 11:49 AM Post
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My guess is that they'll use this to ultimately find a spot for Vogt as a bench bat/3rd catcher/once-in-a-while-because-he's-a-gritty-veteran 1B.

There might be a little time in between when Thames goes on the DL and when Vogt's rehab assignment is complete, so maybe they'll call up Philips or Choi for a few days, but I don't think they'll stick, as the organization seems to like Bandy and Vogt, and this will buy them time in trying to figure out what to do with one of them.


Ugh I hope not. We have good enough depth in the minors without carrying 2 mediocre backup catchers.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 12:19 PM Post
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Carrying 2 mediocre catchers as backups would annoy me a great deal as well. Simply no need for it. I don't think very highly of Bandy or Vogt and losing either one wouldn't even make me blink an eye quite frankly.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 12:27 PM Post
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Nottingham not being overwhelmed in his short stint here was enough for me to move on from Bandy if that is needed. Use Vogt as the backup and, if needed, we have our next in line in Nottingham.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 12:42 PM Post
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Nottingham not being overwhelmed in his short stint here was enough for me to move on from Bandy if that is needed. Use Vogt as the backup and, if needed, we have our next in line in Nottingham.


Bethancourt has been good too in AAA. Bandy is pretty redundant at this point. Given the dearth of decent catching options out there, it's possible they might be able to make a DFA trade with Bandy for some minor league depth, but if that doesn't happen, I don't have much problem with full on cutting bait.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 2:53 PM Post
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Well, looks like having a bunch of 1B's is about to pay off. Can never have too much depth.


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Posted: April 25, 2018, 6:01 PM Post
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A few days off would be a good thing for Santana. As pointed out, had a super slow start last year and really picked it up. I am betting on that again. Domingo will be fine. All I know is all this depth at OF/1B is really paying off so far with injuries/slow starts.


He started slow last year but nothing like this year. He had 5 HR, and 12 RBI and a .774 OPS in April of 2017. His OPS right now is a pathetic .569 and he's got a grand total of 1 extra base hit in 87 PA and just 3 RBI.

If Choi doesn't pick it up and soon, the move to make is to bring up Phillips.


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Posted: June 13, 2018, 8:57 AM Post

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three games in since eric thames has been activated, and it appears that he'll be out of the starting lineup for two of those three (assuming no changes to the today's announced lineup). the one game he started, he played first base.


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