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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:41 PM Post
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What??? Per Rosenthal.

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statu ... 70274?s=19

Someone talk me off the figurative ledge.

Has to either be money or dysfunction. And both are bad options. If it's money we should've paid him. Dysfunction...uh oh.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:44 PM Post
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We can never have anything nice. This sucks.


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I’m very concerned something bad is going on behind the scenes


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:45 PM Post
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Yes the athletic is saying same position for the reds


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:46 PM Post
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Wow. This is as bad a team news as I could see today.

He and Counsel need 5 year extensions ASAP. We can NOT afford to lose either.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:50 PM Post
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What the front door?!?


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:56 PM Post
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Extremely concerning news. I wasn't too bothered with Coles, but two coaches leaving for what are, at best, sideways moves does not paint a good picture. One can only hope that this is due to plans underway to bring in someone new, but it certainly doesn't seem planned. And it would be hard to improve on DJ.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:56 PM Post
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Something is very wrong right now. Our bullpen and pitching staff in general were the strength of the team and we are losing both key coaches there.

This can’t be because we think we can upgrade both areas?


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:58 PM Post
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Stearns said they had extensive negoatiations to keep him...why not pay the man???


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 3:59 PM Post
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Well there goes the Sonny Gray reclamation project.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:00 PM Post
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https://twitter.com/adammccalvy/status/ ... 82498?s=21

If true, Stearns did a horrible job at these talks and he will own this major unforced error. There is no amount of money a pitching coach could ask for that the Reds would pay that wouldn’t be reasonable.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:03 PM Post
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Is Johnson from the Cincy area?

Maybe Johnson didn't see eye to eye with the analytics staff.

Grasping at straws why he wouldn't be coming back.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:04 PM Post
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Stearns said they had extensive negoatiations to keep him...why not pay the man???


What possible negotiations could take place? DJ gives a number and Sterns says yes. Period.

It isn’t like he is leaving for a manager job or a team that will bring in star talent. This is lateral and arguably a step down.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:10 PM Post
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This one hurts... I trust Stearns can find a good replacement for DJ, but I'm not sure how anyone could have done a better job than DJ.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:12 PM Post
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Congrats to DJ on the new gig. If he truly is a miracle worker, Cincy is the spot to prove it.

It would seem he is valued more by posters here than he is within the industry, otherwise you'd think he could have landed a job with a competent organization.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:12 PM Post
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This sucks. I was legitimately taken aback when I saw the tweet.

With follow up tweets from the Brewers beat writers, it seems like it was a salary thing.

Him leaving for more money makes me feel a lot more comfortable than it being a culture or philosophical issue.

They’ll find another pitching coach. Hopefully they’re investing in some high speed cameras for Miller Park and Maryvale too.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:14 PM Post
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If it's truly a salary thing, insert amount of money Brewers have spent for crappy pitchers under Mark Attanasio here:

Then insert whatever salary Derek Johnson got from the Reds here:

And ponder.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:14 PM Post
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This is kind of career suicide, no?


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:16 PM Post
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Congrats to DJ on the new gig. If he truly is a miracle worker, Cincy is the spot to prove it.

It would seem he is valued more by posters here than he is within the industry, otherwise you'd think he could have landed a job with a competent organization.


Obviously DJ feels Cincinnati is a more competent organization than Milwaukee. That should be a red flag.


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Posted: October 31, 2018, 4:16 PM Post
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This is kind of career suicide, no?

You could say that about him joining the Brewers when he did. I would say the Reds are in a similar position as the Brewers were just a couple of years ago.


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