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Posted: February 19, 2019, 6:12 PM Post
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The Brewers are way into record payroll territory, and the question is whether that will hamstring them come trade season in July. Mark Attanasio: “The chips are all in now. We’ll find the money at midseason if we need to.”


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Posted: February 19, 2019, 6:23 PM Post
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I don’t know if I’d agree with them being “all in”. The majority of the key cogs are still under team control beyond 2019.

Hopefully that doesn’t mean this elevated payroll is a one time shot at the World Series and if they don’t get there or win it they’ll drop back to a lower payroll.


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Posted: February 19, 2019, 6:30 PM Post
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I'd feel a lot more "ALL IN" if we had an actual frontline proven starter...

Still not sold on our rotation for the long haul in a complete season.

How many innings can we expect Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta to go? 180 each? Doubtful.

Those three, Anderson and Davies, and hopefully Nelson, but I can't count on him until I see that he is actually ready to contribute.

I still think Stearns is going to bring in a starter.


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Posted: February 19, 2019, 6:45 PM Post
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I'd feel a lot more "ALL IN" if we had an actual frontline proven starter...

Still not sold on our rotation for the long haul in a complete season.

How many innings can we expect Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta to go? 180 each? Doubtful.

Those three, Anderson and Davies, and hopefully Nelson, but I can't count on him until I see that he is actually ready to contribute.

I still think Stearns is going to bring in a starter.


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#Brewers owner Mark Attanasio: "Every year, we are the Rodney Dangerfield of major-league pitching staffs. No respect. And every year they've performed. I'm excited to see what they can do this year as well."


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Posted: February 19, 2019, 7:11 PM Post
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Honestly Mark A. didn't really say anything there that I wouldn't fully expect him to say. Not that it's not the truth.


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Even last year, when the pitching staff as a whole vastly exceeded anyone's wildest expectations, not having a frontline starter came back to bite us in the postseason when Jeffress was worn down from pitching so much during the season. They need to give these guys a break and sign Keuchel.


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Has Stearns given us reason to believe he knows what he’s doing?? Perhaps we should give the 2019 Brew a chance before deciding we overachieved. I’d like to think 2018 we were ascending.


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I agree would feel better with A guy like Dallas on this team


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Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, and Huira are all still in the organization. They are far from "all in".


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Even last year, when the pitching staff as a whole vastly exceeded anyone's wildest expectations, not having a frontline starter came back to bite us in the postseason when Jeffress was worn down from pitching so much during the season. They need to give these guys a break and sign Keuchel.



There is very little proof that this is an accurate statement. The Brewers were one hit away from going to the World Series.

Sale was hurt and pitched poorly in the world series and the rest of Boston's rotation was not very good and they won it all.

It is a bit scary that outside of maybe Chacin not a single pitcher on the team can be relied on for more than 150 IP. It definitely puts some strain on the team overall. But pitching is not what wins championships regardless of the silly saying. There are really rare cases where it holds true like the one crazy Bumgarner year but it is usually the hitting that decides things more than the pitching.


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"All in," as in all your blue chips in for this one hand (season)...... I don't agree with.
If they are truly all in, Hiura is centerpiece for a #1 or #2 pitcher with multiple years left.


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"All in," as in all your blue chips in for this one hand (season)...... I don't agree with.
If they are truly all in, Hiura is centerpiece for a #1 or #2 pitcher with multiple years left.


It won't bother me at all if the Brewers trade Hiura as part of a deal for Trevor Bauer mid season if he looks healthy.


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Posted: February 19, 2019, 10:10 PM Post
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I think there is to much emphasis being put on all in being all in or done now. we all know a team evolves from spring training to September and when the brewer brass states there all in ,in my mind means they will do what ever needed through out the season ,not just all in in February.


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Posted: February 19, 2019, 11:23 PM Post
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When I posted that I was just thinking it was something to fire us all up, not create an existential discussion of whether the Brewers were actually all in or not. Kind of picture Mark A at the poker table pushing all his chips into the center of the table, then taking off his wedding ring and putting it in the pot, then taking out the keys to him BWM and throwing it in. Don't think too much about it you're hurting the team when you do that. Just go with it.


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Posted: February 20, 2019, 3:21 AM Post
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The Brewers are way into record payroll territory, and the question is whether that will hamstring them come trade season in July. Mark Attanasio: “The chips are all in now. We’ll find the money at midseason if we need to.”



Kinda hard to believe that "the chips are all in now" when the Brewers payroll is less than the Bucks. The Brewers current payroll is about $121 million while the Bucks current payroll is $126.5 million, the Bucks payroll is expected increase in the upcoming offseason. I think Mark A should still has some chips left that he's not letting people know.


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Posted: February 20, 2019, 4:57 AM Post
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SRB said:
Even last year, when the pitching staff as a whole vastly exceeded anyone's wildest expectations, not having a frontline starter came back to bite us in the postseason when Jeffress was worn down from pitching so much during the season. They need to give these guys a break and sign Keuchel.



There is very little proof that this is an accurate statement. The Brewers were one hit away from going to the World Series.

Sale was hurt and pitched poorly in the world series and the rest of Boston's rotation was not very good and they won it all.

It is a bit scary that outside of maybe Chacin not a single pitcher on the team can be relied on for more than 150 IP. It definitely puts some strain on the team overall. But pitching is not what wins championships regardless of the silly saying. There are really rare cases where it holds true like the one crazy Bumgarner year but it is usually the hitting that decides things more than the pitching.


The Red Sox starters were much better than you think. Price 16-7/3.58 - Rodriguez 13-5/3.62 - Porcello 17-7/ 4.28 - Eovaldi 3-3/3.33. That's a pretty good staff all around. The offense was hyped all year, but the pitching staff was also very good.


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Posted: February 20, 2019, 7:34 AM Post
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Even last year, when the pitching staff as a whole vastly exceeded anyone's wildest expectations, not having a frontline starter came back to bite us in the postseason when Jeffress was worn down from pitching so much during the season. They need to give these guys a break and sign Keuchel.


People keep pushing this and it's simply disingenuous. Their offense bit them. It was not their lack of having a big time SP. It's stuck because it is easiest thing to say after a cursory glance.


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Posted: February 20, 2019, 8:16 AM Post
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SRB said:
Even last year, when the pitching staff as a whole vastly exceeded anyone's wildest expectations, not having a frontline starter came back to bite us in the postseason when Jeffress was worn down from pitching so much during the season. They need to give these guys a break and sign Keuchel.


People keep pushing this and it's simply disingenuous. Their offense bit them. It was not their lack of having a big time SP. It's stuck because it is easiest thing to say after a cursory glance.


Yeah, we lost to the Dodgers because the bats went cold. Scored a total of 7 runs in 40 innings in the four losses.


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Posted: February 20, 2019, 8:35 AM Post
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This is all shaping up to be one of the more exciting spring training camps in a while. Coming off a great season, one could say this team should be better than last year. Even if you factor in "regression" on some, others will improve. On paper, this team has a lot of positives that outweigh the few negatives and I am excited that Mark A feels they are all in. I agree that plopping down ~$30 million to upgrade your offense that came up a bit short in the playoffs definitely feels like you have armed your team with the needed strength. Can't wait for opening day! Can't wait for Torts positivity thread and the Brewers prediction thread and the name your starting 5 thread and the lists go on and on. This is going to be a fun year - Go Brewers!


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Posted: February 20, 2019, 8:46 AM Post
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The weight of expectation could very well send this season spiraling downward. I don't think the feeling has ever been this optimistic going in, maybe camp of 2011.


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