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Posted: July 08, 2019, 5:58 PM Post
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If you were DJ, which (talent-wise) pitching staff would you want to coach? When Chase Anderson is your highest paid starter, you are probably going to get average starts. IMO this is an average (talent) team that probably overachieved some last year.


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Posted: July 09, 2019, 11:07 AM Post
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Wahoo Maniac said:
Warning Track Power said:
I stand by my statement in an in game thread. This is easily my least favorite Brewer season in memory. I’m 37 and remember the early 2000s quite vividly. The NL was supposed to be jammed packed and very competitive but the lack of effectiveness of Chacin, Burnes, Peralta, etc... and the regression of Shaw, Cain and Aguilar (even though he’s showing signs of improvement) have made for expectations that haven’t been met and they should have reasonably been expected to continue. I hope I am wrong but this team looks dead. And for all you Stearns defenders (I am one of them) he’s greatly at fault for his hirings of the pitching/hitting coaches and the way he’s built this team with multiple redundant players (Thames, Aguilar, Shaw, Moustakas, Grandal).

I know, right? Acquiring All-Star players in Moose and Grandal. What was he thinking?

Thames has done nothing but perform while he's been here outside of the final 2 months last year (also had an injury prior to his bench role rest of that season). Aguilar was very good in 2017, excellent first half 2018, decent second half 2018, struggled hard this April and has had a solid BA/OBP for May/June was just missing his power and it appears that's starting to come back now. Shaw was very good in 2017/2018 and has hit a wall this year.

I just recently joined the site and have followed here and there for a bit previously but I'm guessing there was no fake outrage at Stearns prior to 2019 for acquiring the wrong type of player when all these guys were performing.

My point in stating that Stearns has acquired multiple redundant players isn't to criticize them individually. As you have pointed out, Moustakas and Grandal are both All Stars and that is great! However, when you have a team that is completely dependent on HR and slugging to win games, you will go into the tank when the power inevitably disappears for periods of time. This is why guys like Cain 2018-vintage are so valuable. A professional hitter is quite valuable when the power goes out. Thames/Aguilar & Moustakas/Shaw are essentially the same type of player, heavily dependent on HR and slugging. I would gladly take a Lucroy/Overbay type hitter, high AVG/doubles power, at this point in time.

If Cain returns to form and the Brewers simply pepper in another Cain-type player or two (perhaps its Hiura), I think it will go a long way to avoiding the offensive slumps we are seeing. Because quite frankly, they don't have the pitching to withstand the power outages they have been encountering.


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Posted: July 09, 2019, 11:31 AM Post
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This is why guys like Cain 2018-vintage are so valuable.


For all of the valid (or invalid) theories about why this team has underperformed, this one doesn't get discussed enough. Many predicted that Cain would slide over the length of his contract, but I don't know if anyone in the fanbase or FO could have envisioned him going from All-Star/MVP candidate-level production to replacement level in just one year.


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Posted: July 09, 2019, 11:46 AM Post
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Yea Cain falling this badly is probably the biggest thing hurting the offense. As WTP just said, so many other guys are power hit or miss types, he was the counter to that with high contact and high OBP to maintain some consistency. Even a slight reduction from last year, as expected, would've been fine but a complete falloff really hurts. If it is really because of this thumb, maybe that therapy and this time off will let him get back to a semblance of his old self. Combine that with Hiura and then you add in two high contact guys you didn't have the first half. it really should help and we kind of need it as I'm sure Moose and Grandal have a bit of regression coming, heck Yelich too.


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Posted: July 09, 2019, 4:39 PM Post
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I figured we'd get two productive seasons, and the last 3 would be sliding off...

I didn't however think that he would be as good as he was last year, or as bad as he has been this year.

If this continues, we have another giant weight on our backs that a team like ours can't afford.


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Posted: July 09, 2019, 5:25 PM Post
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I don't think Lorenzo Cain's ability has dropped off due to age or anything, it's 100% related to his thumb. Whether that will ever heal enough for him to return to his 2018 level is another question. At least his defense is still incredible, and that makes him valuable regardless of the bat. But hopefully the cryotherapy treats him well enough for the remainder of this season/postseason and then a full offseason gets him back to where he needs to be.


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Posted: July 09, 2019, 7:56 PM Post
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Cain simply isn’t hitting the ball hard and hasn’t had a good eye at the plate. It has been bad. Very bad. And it’s really hurt this offense.


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Posted: July 09, 2019, 9:28 PM Post
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Cain simply isn’t hitting the ball hard and hasn’t had a good eye at the plate. It has been bad. Very bad. And it’s really hurt this offense.


This is not true. Cain's hard hit % is above his career average of 30.5%, for 2019 his hard hit % is at 33.7% he has taken a dip from last year which was his highest of his career in a full season in the majors. Only thing that is alarming about Cain is his IFFB% which is at 11.5% this year. A positive for Cain is that he is having a career year with his LD% at 25.1% the highest he has ever had in the majors.

Cain's O-Swing% is up from last year but is still below his career average and his Z-Swing% is up from last year but is below his career average. Cain has been fine with his plate discipline. The biggest reason you are seeing Cain struggle this year is his low BABIP which is significantly below his career average. If Cain can continue his LD% into the second half I expect him to rebound nicely. I wouldn't be surprised if Cain starts hitting closer to his career average during the 2nd half of the season.


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