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Posted: July 05, 2019, 1:17 PM Post
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endaround said:
Can we stop we the Braun should be a 1B/DH? He barely hits enough to play corner OF. He hasn't hit well enough for 1B/DH since 2016 and even then he would only have been a decent not great player there.

That said if he wants he likely could easily get 3-5 million in 2021 to be a 4th OFer or a starter on a team with a hole.


He doesn’t hit well enough for a 1B, unless it’s on the Brewers. Our 1B duo isn’t really lighting it up this year, although it’s not nearly as awful now than it was not that long ago.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 2:58 PM Post
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Ennder said:
He still hits the ball hard but his plate discipline has been falling apart for years now as is his defense and foot speed. He hasn't even had any real injury concerns this season other than just his normal extra rest. He just hasn't been a very good corner outfielder.


Or at least no injury concerns that we were aware of........until today

https://twitter.com/adammccalvy/status/ ... 47104?s=21


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 4:32 PM Post
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endaround said:
Can we stop we the Braun should be a 1B/DH? He barely hits enough to play corner OF. He hasn't hit well enough for 1B/DH since 2016 and even then he would only have been a decent not great player there.


Braun should be a 1B/DH because defensively that is where he should be playing.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 4:34 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
Ennder said:
He still hits the ball hard but his plate discipline has been falling apart for years now as is his defense and foot speed. He hasn't even had any real injury concerns this season other than just his normal extra rest. He just hasn't been a very good corner outfielder.


Or at least no injury concerns that we were aware of........until today

https://twitter.com/adammccalvy/status/ ... 47104?s=21


So play the final series a man down because...I have no idea why. IL Braun and bring someone else up.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 4:41 PM Post
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I get it that alot of people don't care for Braun because of the ped's and the way he handled it. Not good. He is not our best hitter and never will be again, but name me another better rh hitter on our team.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 4:49 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
Ennder said:
He still hits the ball hard but his plate discipline has been falling apart for years now as is his defense and foot speed. He hasn't even had any real injury concerns this season other than just his normal extra rest. He just hasn't been a very good corner outfielder.


Or at least no injury concerns that we were aware of........until today

https://twitter.com/adammccalvy/status/ ... 47104?s=21


So play the final series a man down because...I have no idea why. IL Braun and bring someone else up.


Exactly. He'll miss like 5 games with a 10 day stint right now.

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Posted: July 05, 2019, 5:11 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
Ennder said:
He still hits the ball hard but his plate discipline has been falling apart for years now as is his defense and foot speed. He hasn't even had any real injury concerns this season other than just his normal extra rest. He just hasn't been a very good corner outfielder.


Or at least no injury concerns that we were aware of........until today

https://twitter.com/adammccalvy/status/ ... 47104?s=21



It makes sense given how quickly he was taken out despite signaling that he was fine when he slid into the wall.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 5:35 PM Post
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Brew crew 92 said:
I’d be for eating 15-17 of the 21 that he’s owed with a trade to the Dodgers or Angels or whoever, and get a more productive player for the four or 5 million saved off his contract.



Yeah, you're ok spending lots of Attanasio's money.

But yeah, that's not gonna happen. The Brewers aren't paying 15-17 million to get rid of Braun, just freeing up 4-5 million sure doesn't guarantee they'll get a better player and the Dodgers and Angels have no need for him. The Dodgers especially, but even the Angels have Kalhoun, Upton and Ohtani manning the corner OF spots and DH.


I'm not blaming the OP, but this is just about the worst thread to bring up while the Brewers are struggling.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 5:36 PM Post
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Baldkin said:

Exactly. He'll miss like 5 games with a 10 day stint right now.



Sooo...you're saying it's time to usher in the Trent Grisham era?


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 5:52 PM Post
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mtsportsfan said:
I get it that alot of people don't care for Braun because of the ped's and the way he handled it. Not good. He is not our best hitter and never will be again, but name me another better rh hitter on our team.


This is like saying "name me another better RH reliever on our team than Matt Albers."

It says a lot more about the quality of RH bats on our team than it does about Ryan Braun.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 6:07 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
mtsportsfan said:
I get it that alot of people don't care for Braun because of the ped's and the way he handled it. Not good. He is not our best hitter and never will be again, but name me another better rh hitter on our team.


This is like saying "name me another better RH reliever on our team than Matt Albers."

It says a lot more about the quality of RH bats on our team than it does about Ryan Braun.



Yeah, but it also says we shouldn't be giving him away or in a rush to just dump him.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 6:25 PM Post
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OnTheBlack said:
adambr2 said:
mtsportsfan said:
I get it that alot of people don't care for Braun because of the ped's and the way he handled it. Not good. He is not our best hitter and never will be again, but name me another better rh hitter on our team.


This is like saying "name me another better RH reliever on our team than Matt Albers."

It says a lot more about the quality of RH bats on our team than it does about Ryan Braun.



Yeah, but it also says we shouldn't be giving him away or in a rush to just dump him.


There's not really any dumping him anyway. He's not a tradeable player and he's a sunk cost. So he'll be here in whatever way he can most benefit the team through next season and then they'll move on. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 8:54 PM Post
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mtsportsfan said:
I get it that alot of people don't care for Braun because of the ped's and the way he handled it. Not good. He is not our best hitter and never will be again, but name me another better rh hitter on our team.


I was gonna say Woodruff but turns out he bats lefty~.


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Posted: July 05, 2019, 9:22 PM Post
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Braun is done after 2020 unless he suddenly has a good year. He's an aging hitting with diminishing offensive output, bad defensively - as well as limited defensively.

That's not a player you want on the team any more - even if he's cheap.


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Posted: July 06, 2019, 12:59 AM Post
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Ennder said:
He still hits the ball hard but his plate discipline has been falling apart for years now as is his defense and foot speed.


He never had good defensive instincts. His defense in the outfield was entirely speed dependent and as his speed has declined so has his defense. Not really a shock.

Ennder said:
He hasn't even had any real injury concerns this season other than just his normal extra rest. He just hasn't been a very good corner outfielder.


He has had injury concerns most of his career. Pretty early on he had nagging oblique issues and that is always a concern.

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Posted: July 07, 2019, 12:28 PM Post
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Braun's numbers this year since a ton of posters think he's not a starter anymore. Anybody that actually watches the games could easily have seen the numbers below play out in real time.

March 28 - April 7 (32 PA)
281/281/906 (126 wrc+)

April 8 - April 19 (38 PA)
088/162/280 (-26 wrc+)

April 20 - present (231 PA)
300/352/836 (117 wrc+)

I shouldn't be shocked given people that think this of Braun also think Thames isn't performing and Aguilar should be DFA'd. If they looked at the numbers they'd be surprised - like they will be when they see Braun's numbers above. From my perspective, it boils down to people having this preconceived notion of each player for various reasons and looking for every little negative thing they can to confirm their belief.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 7:13 PM Post
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Wahoo Maniac said:
Braun's numbers this year since a ton of posters think he's not a starter anymore. Anybody that actually watches the games could easily have seen the numbers below play out in real time.

March 28 - April 7 (32 PA)
281/281/906 (126 wrc+)

April 8 - April 19 (38 PA)
088/162/280 (-26 wrc+)

April 20 - present (231 PA)
300/352/836 (117 wrc+)

I shouldn't be shocked given people that think this of Braun also think Thames isn't performing and Aguilar should be DFA'd. If they looked at the numbers they'd be surprised - like they will be when they see Braun's numbers above. From my perspective, it boils down to people having this preconceived notion of each player for various reasons and looking for every little negative thing they can to confirm their belief.

So he has essentially been a league average hitter with below average defense who needs a good amount of time off. Not really a starter at this point in his career.

Fan is short for fanatic.
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Posted: July 07, 2019, 8:00 PM Post
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Wahoo Maniac said:
Braun's numbers this year since a ton of posters think he's not a starter anymore. Anybody that actually watches the games could easily have seen the numbers below play out in real time.

March 28 - April 7 (32 PA)
281/281/906 (126 wrc+)

April 8 - April 19 (38 PA)
088/162/280 (-26 wrc+)

April 20 - present (231 PA)
300/352/836 (117 wrc+)

I shouldn't be shocked given people that think this of Braun also think Thames isn't performing and Aguilar should be DFA'd. If they looked at the numbers they'd be surprised - like they will be when they see Braun's numbers above. From my perspective, it boils down to people having this preconceived notion of each player for various reasons and looking for every little negative thing they can to confirm their belief.

So he has essentially been a league average hitter with below average defense who needs a good amount of time off. Not really a starter at this point in his career.

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Posted: July 07, 2019, 9:05 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
logan82 said:
Wahoo Maniac said:
Braun's numbers this year since a ton of posters think he's not a starter anymore. Anybody that actually watches the games could easily have seen the numbers below play out in real time.

March 28 - April 7 (32 PA)
281/281/906 (126 wrc+)

April 8 - April 19 (38 PA)
088/162/280 (-26 wrc+)

April 20 - present (231 PA)
300/352/836 (117 wrc+)

I shouldn't be shocked given people that think this of Braun also think Thames isn't performing and Aguilar should be DFA'd. If they looked at the numbers they'd be surprised - like they will be when they see Braun's numbers above. From my perspective, it boils down to people having this preconceived notion of each player for various reasons and looking for every little negative thing they can to confirm their belief.

So he has essentially been a league average hitter with below average defense who needs a good amount of time off. Not really a starter at this point in his career.

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I LOL’d at that one because that’s all you can do. Apparently a brutal 10 game stretch in mid-April renders his 120 area wrc+ the rest of the first half meaningless making him a league average hitter. He also has a positive DRS (1) in LF so there’s that as well. His defense no doubt is regressing but he’s still easily an average LF with a good accurate arm. Also, he’s on pace for 538 PA, which amounts to starting 3 of every 4 games. He’s 35 and has always had nagging injuries so I’d say that’s a pretty good pace.

Maybe Logan82 should reread my last sentence in previous post because he’s proving my point.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 9:08 PM Post
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Wahoo Maniac said:
I LOL’d at that one because that’s all you can do. Apparently a brutal 10 game stretch in mid-April renders his 120 area wrc+ the rest of the first half meaningless making him a league average hitter. He also has a positive DRS (1) in LF so there’s that as well. His defense no doubt is regressing but he’s still easily an average LF with a good accurate arm. Also, he’s on pace for 538 PA, which amounts to starting 3 of every 4 games. He’s 35 and has always had nagging injuries so I’d say that’s a pretty good pace.

Maybe Logan82 should reread my last sentence in previous post because he’s proving my point.


You can't take out a 10 game stretch. Every player would look a lot better if you took out their worst 10 game stretch.

And if you want to break it up like that you can say he's been bad two out of the three months this year.

March/April: .196/.250/.381
May: .363/.427/.588
June/July: .275/.302/.422

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