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Posted: July 06, 2019, 9:33 PM Post
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Posted: July 06, 2019, 9:45 PM Post
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Hopefully Arcia is ok, but it is very exciting to see what Dubon can do at the big league level. We could sure use a spark right now. Hopefully Dubon can be just that.


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Posted: July 06, 2019, 10:18 PM Post
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If Dubon is being called up, then Arcia's injury is serious enough to put him on the DL.

I hope Arcia recovers quickly. I hope Dubon is good enough to make the team's middle infield decisions very difficult.

I think he will be... I think his defense isn't as good, but he has hit over .300 more often than not in the minors, especially in recent years.


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Posted: July 06, 2019, 10:27 PM Post
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You mean we won't be seeing Saladino starting bummer


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Posted: July 06, 2019, 10:37 PM Post
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Hope the Arcia injury isn't serious.

Really happy for Dubon. He was hitting everything and just days away from a call-up the first time Arcia was optioned in May of last year when he suffered the ACL injury. Had to work all the way back from that while being limited in spring training by a bad illness that hospitalized him, with no time to test his versatility for a potential utility role, while getting passed and blocked at second by Hiura, and with Arcia coming back around at short.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 5:44 AM Post
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I love Arcia, and you never hope for someone to by Wally Pipp'd, but in this case, it would probably help the Brewers. We need more consistency on offense. I don't know if that is Dubon, but it isn't going to hurt to try.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 5:59 AM Post
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I don't think Arcia's been the real problem on offense this year. After all he's got the same amount of HR and almost as many RBI as Braun batting either 8th or 9th while striking out less. But this organization seems to have an offensive depth issue and it would be great to see Dubon be able to hold his own against major league pitching. This exposure to major league pitching comes at a time when it should help his development.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 6:05 AM Post
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Oh dang, hope Orlando is okay, but excited for dubon time!!!

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Posted: July 07, 2019, 6:17 AM Post
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brewmann04 said:
You mean we won't be seeing Saladino starting bummer

Your boy Perez is 0-9, 4K in AAA


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 6:23 AM Post
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Something needs to change with this offense, maybe a rookie can ignite this team.

It certainly won’t hurt to add a little more speed to the lineup, of course he needs to get on base for that to matter.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 6:33 AM Post
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I don't think Arcia's been the real problem on offense this year. After all he's got the same amount of HR and almost as many RBI as Braun batting either 8th or 9th while striking out less. But this organization seems to have an offensive depth issue and it would be great to see Dubon be able to hold his own against major league pitching. This exposure to major league pitching comes at a time when it should help his development.

Arcia's been a problem at the plate for a large portion of his MLB career. His K rate is like 2.5% lower than Braun's too this year and he's 11yrs younger. It sounds like you think Braun and Arcia are comparable hitters, which they most certainly are not.

Arcia hasn't matured over his time. He's like Perez; they go about their business and never take that next step. He's a slightly better version of Alcides Escobar but with more power, less speed. He absolutely has been a hole in this lineup most of the time offering no consistency. Low BA, low OBP but his power came back (which was obviously going to happen as well).

Dubon is a high BA, high contact/low K bat who brings consistency to any lineup. He's been that way his entire career.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 6:50 AM Post
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Dubon is going to be an all glove no bat player in the major leagues. Not exactly what the team needs at this moment


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 7:16 AM Post
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Dubon is going to be an all glove no bat player in the major leagues. Not exactly what the team needs at this moment


He's hit pretty well at every level. What makes you think the bat will go into hibernation in the majors? Not trying to argue, just trying to understand your reasoning.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 7:53 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
I don't think Arcia's been the real problem on offense this year. After all he's got the same amount of HR and almost as many RBI as Braun batting either 8th or 9th while striking out less. But this organization seems to have an offensive depth issue and it would be great to see Dubon be able to hold his own against major league pitching. This exposure to major league pitching comes at a time when it should help his development.

Arcia's been a problem at the plate for a large portion of his MLB career. His K rate is like 2.5% lower than Braun's too this year and he's 11yrs younger. It sounds like you think Braun and Arcia are comparable hitters, which they most certainly are not.

Arcia hasn't matured over his time. He's like Perez; they go about their business and never take that next step. He's a slightly better version of Alcides Escobar but with more power, less speed. He absolutely has been a hole in this lineup most of the time offering no consistency. Low BA, low OBP but his power came back (which was obviously going to happen as well).

Dubon is a high BA, high contact/low K bat who brings consistency to any lineup. He's been that way his entire career.


Arcia had what used to be called a sophomore slump for most of 2018. Other than the 5 months of 2018, he's been a productive major league hitter. His career K rate is actually below major league average. His BABIP rate would indicate he's hit in bad luck particularly this year. His OPS is 125 points higher with BABIP rate down 40 points? That's not easy to do. His walk rate could be better, but as the 8th hitter, I'd rather he be swinging with 2 outs and runners on. When he bats 9th, he gets better pitches to hit and he's slugging .487 in that spot compared to .410 with the pitcher batting behind him.

Let's see what Dubon does against major league pitching. Most guys K rates go up pretty significantly with the jump to the majors. I think he's ready to be a decent major league hitter, but I don't expect much more than something like .270/.320/.400. Useful sure. A future star? Doubtful.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 8:11 AM Post
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I'll take that line from Dubon. Much better than all the .225 or below hitters currently on the roster.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 8:21 AM Post
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As others have expressed, I’m excited for Dubon to get his chance.

It will be interesting if Dubon ends up in the Brewers long term plans or if this ends up being a situation similar to when the Angels called up Jean Segura in July of 2012 before trading him to the Brewers. I do think Dubon is among the Brewers most likely trade assets if they make a significant addition prior to the deadline. Depending on the severity of Arcia’s injury, maybe that status has now changed.

Here are some of the projected 2019 MLB batting lines for Dubon via various projection systems (for entertainment purposes only, please take these projections with a grain of salt)...

Clay Davenport: .261 BA / .291 OBP / .383 SLG (.674 OPS)

Steamer: .259 BA / .297 OBP / .393 SLG (.690 OPS)

THE BAT: .254 BA / .295 OBP / .387 SLG (.682 OPS)


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 8:24 AM Post
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Arcia us apparently fine, expects to play after the break

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Posted: July 07, 2019, 8:36 AM Post
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Jopal78! said:
Dubon is going to be an all glove no bat player in the major leagues. Not exactly what the team needs at this moment


What part of anything Dubon has done over his minor league career led you to that conclusion? This is a shockingly bad take.


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 8:45 AM Post
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The PCL is a hitter’s league. A .487 slugging in that league isn’t great, and is below most of the Mission regulars. His OBP is also near the bottom of the regulars at San Antonio.

And that’s AAA, where he’s not going to be facing the best pitching he’s ever seen in nearly every at bat. So to think a middling AAA bat is going to come up and not likely struggle is the poor take


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Posted: July 07, 2019, 8:49 AM Post
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.284 .342 .407 .749 - Orlando Arcia's career MILB numbers while being 2 years younger than Dubon at every level.

.301 .348 .424 .772 - Mauricio Dubon's career MILB numbers.

Not much difference. It'll be fun to see if Mauricio can translate his MILB numbers to some success at this level. We could use his versatility. He's not an all world defender but Arcia hasn't been very good either this year so defense is probably a wash.


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