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Posted: July 11, 2019, 12:34 PM Post
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Ok we are all in agreement that we want the brewers to make the playoffs. That said knowing what we know from the first half I think there is a huge disagreement on if they are going to be in or out. I would be interested in taking the temp on if people think they will end up in or out and why. I for one believe they will finish out. In my opinion the pitching is even worse than feared. Sure Stearns will make a move or two but they don't have enough to grab an impact starter. The bullpen needs three arms and they have limited currency to deal. The division is deeper than thought and I don't think a wildcard comes out of the central. It's division or bust and don't think they get it done unfortunately. Anyone else??


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 12:38 PM Post
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I'd put my money on out as well. I'd probably call it about a coin flip that could go either way and there's clearly a good chance they make some moves, people improve, etc to make it happen. Then once you're in anything can happen. But if I had to bet on it today I'd pick out.


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I think this team has a couple big runs in them and are squarely still in. I mean any team that is a 1/2 game out of 1st place is obviously still in it. Once in the playoffs, any team can get hot and go on a run.

I think a couple solid pen arm acquisitions and perhaps another starter would go a long way toward making them a top contender. Getting the holes in the line-up sorted out will be a huge key to second half success. If Aguilar can continue to capitalize off his better hitting going into the break, and if they can get Cain going, it would be huge. Having a potentially lethal bat in Shaw sitting at AAA could also factor in positively. If they are going to acquire anything on offense, I'd like it to be a right-handed utility guy who can offer decent at-bats and serve as a part-time table setter against tough lefty pitching.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 12:47 PM Post
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In. Coin flip on the division but I think WC for sure. I see Aguilar getting back to the solid player he is, Hiura taking his game to another level, the rotation stabilizing and the pen being improved. I also think Cain becomes more consistent playing with the injury. I think Shaw comes in handy down the stretch too.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 12:50 PM Post
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Out. It happens. They wanted to be sustainably competitive, and I would rather have a sort of dud year like this where they're ok, but interesting, if it means they're going to continue giving me hope every year. I don't really like the every 8 years then fire sale thing. Too much went wrong. Bad SP, and too much regression on offense. If they come out of the gates playing poorly it may be time to think about getting some lottery tickets for Grandal.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 12:52 PM Post
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Yeah, a coin flip. I'll say 51% out.

There are players that could or should get better, but there are a couple of players that could come down to earth a little.

Plus if you get an injury to Yelich, Woodruff, or Hader - I don't see the team having a chance.

The longer the tight division goes, the less the chance of anyone getting a wildcard spot from the division - so you are inviting someone to go on a torrid hot streak and then you are not making the playoffs.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 1:04 PM Post
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I feel like the Brewers will do well right out of the gate and stay competitive, and will probably make the playoffs. All the guys know they have to start out well or risk Stearns punting on the season and trading guys away. I think that sense of urgency will be a good thing. Also, I'm expecting Cain to start out hot with the time off. We need that 1-2 combo back where they open the game with 2 guys on, no outs, and Braun(or whoever is 3rd) up to bat with the SP having thrown 15 pitches already. That start to the game was very common a large part of our success last year.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 1:20 PM Post
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IN as a wild card.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 1:21 PM Post
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I think this team has a couple big runs in them and are squarely still in. I mean any team that is a 1/2 game out of 1st place is obviously still in it. Once in the playoffs, any team can get hot and go on a run.

I think a couple solid pen arm acquisitions and perhaps another starter would go a long way toward making them a top contender. Getting the holes in the line-up sorted out will be a huge key to second half success. If Aguilar can continue to capitalize off his better hitting going into the break, and if they can get Cain going, it would be huge. Having a potentially lethal bat in Shaw sitting at AAA could also factor in positively. If they are going to acquire anything on offense, I'd like it to be a right-handed utility guy who can offer decent at-bats and serve as a part-time table setter against tough lefty pitching.

Having both Shaw and Perez in AAA is something no one would have guessed possible. They both may be trade bait to make something happen on the pitching front. It's been a wild first half for sure.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 1:31 PM Post
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I don't see Shaw going anywhere. Who didn't want Albers off the team last year? He's been a big part of the team this season. Shaw has played too well for prolonged periods for a team like the Brewers to lose. At his salary I'll be pretty surprised if they don't give him a fresh start next year with Moose almost definitely gone. But I don't want to take this too far off the rails.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 1:45 PM Post
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I say "In" since even at our worst, the Cubs haven't been able to pull away. The Brewers are still the only team in the NL Central with an intra-division record over .500 ...and that's after a week of dropping series to the Reds and Pirates.

With Keston playing almost every day in the second half, and Cain likely to rebound after a disappointing first half, I think the offense will be better. If the starting pitching holds up, they should still be a playoff team.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 1:55 PM Post
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In as well


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 1:56 PM Post
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In as division champs and ultimate world series champs

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Posted: July 11, 2019, 2:09 PM Post
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Posted: July 11, 2019, 2:22 PM Post
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In and deep until we hit that climax finish.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 2:30 PM Post
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I don't see Shaw going anywhere. Who didn't want Albers off the team last year? He's been a big part of the team this season. Shaw has played too well for prolonged periods for a team like the Brewers to lose. At his salary I'll be pretty surprised if they don't give him a fresh start next year with Moose almost definitely gone. But I don't want to take this too far off the rails.

I'll guess everybody that knew he was very good before he came here then watched him pitch great until his injury, an injury he clearly wasn't fully recovered from in August when he came back and got rocked. It's no different than Davies except Davies had injury issues in April that affected him all season. Once those dudes were fully healthy they were going to perform again, plus they're both cheap, so not sure why this is surprising to anyone. Shaw is too good and cheap to give up on. I see him starting at 3b next year or replacing Thames (option year) if we resign Moose. All these dudes will contribute in the 2nd half and/or down the stretch.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 2:45 PM Post
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In and deep until we hit that climax finish.


Ha, that was very NC-17!


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 2:47 PM Post
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In. Teams that race out to a good first half tend to fade. Teams that are good, particularly one with a lot of veterans, but tread water for the first half tend to pick it up in the second half. The Brewers are a good team, they will pick things up in the second half.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 2:52 PM Post
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In. Teams that race out to a good first half tend to fade. Teams that are good, particularly one with a lot of veterans, but tread water for the first half tend to pick it up in the second half. The Brewers are a good team, they will pick things up in the second half.


This is true. Cain, Moustakas, Grandal and Braun are very experienced postseason players. The fact that Braun and Grandal haven't hoisted the trophy yet only makes them that much more focused on the prize.


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