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Brewers sign Shelby Miller (8/27: Exercises out clause, becomes FA)

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Offline  Brewers sign Shelby Miller (8/27: Exercises out clause, becomes FA)
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Posted: July 11, 2019, 5:42 PM Post
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Minor league deal?

https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/statu ... 82720?s=21


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 5:44 PM Post
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Yep......minor league deal....good no risk move

https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/statu ... 34791?s=21


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 5:44 PM Post
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Yes, he followed up that it's a minor league deal.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 6:00 PM Post
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Was really good (as in 3.03 ERA when he led the league in losses). Did he have injury problems?


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 6:04 PM Post
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By signing him and Smyly, to me, that signals no trade for a starter at the deadline. I believe Stearns thinks he has enough potential starters for the second half, and has tons of options:

1.) Anderson
2.) Davies
3.) Houser
4.) Chacin
5.) Woodruff
6.) Peralta
7.) Burnes
8.) Gio
9.) Smyly
10.) Wilkerson
11.) Miller

Bullpen is where he’ll add.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 6:22 PM Post
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The Brewers have now added both to this year’s Rangers failed starting rotation members in Smyly and Miller.

My 2015 self is really excited about having these two in the organization. In Shelby Miller’s case specifically, how sweet would it be to have him to successfully pitch meaningful innings versus the Cardinals at some point.

I doubt either one actually pitches out of the rotation at any point this year.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 6:52 PM Post
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Pretty incredible he lost 17 games as an all star with a 3.02 era.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 7:07 PM Post
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Good move no risk for the brewers.


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Posted: July 11, 2019, 10:01 PM Post
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brewmann04 said:
Good move no risk for the brewers.

Agreed, sometimes it's OK to throw things at a wall and see what sticks! Good luck to both Miller and Smyly, you just never know when it clicks. Welcome to the Brewers!!


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 4:13 AM Post
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Pretty incredible he lost 17 games as an all star with a 3.02 era.


Yet another good example of how well W-L records reflect performance.


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 6:36 AM Post
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Brew crew 92 said:
By signing him and Smyly, to me, that signals no trade for a starter at the deadline. I believe Stearns thinks he has enough potential starters for the second half, and has tons of options:

1.) Anderson
2.) Davies
3.) Houser
4.) Chacin
5.) Woodruff
6.) Peralta
7.) Burnes
8.) Gio
9.) Smyly
10.) Wilkerson
11.) Miller

Bullpen is where he’ll add.


Don't confuse quality with quantity. Miller is not an option. He's been awful even in the minors. Highly doubtful Wilkerson gets recalled ever again. Smyly is hanging on in AAA. Both Burnes and Peralta have been given enough opportunities and both have proven so far they can't be starters. Gio is hurt. Houser has been awful in a starter's role, pretty darn good in the pen. Anderson is a #5 at best. When he brings his A game he is decent. When he doesn't he gets shelled. Pretty much what you'd expect from a #5. Chacin has been wildly inconsistent, nowhere near the pitcher he was last year. Everybody has quantity. Few have quality enough to be consistent winners.


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 6:48 AM Post
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wntrtxn21 said:
Brew crew 92 said:
By signing him and Smyly, to me, that signals no trade for a starter at the deadline. I believe Stearns thinks he has enough potential starters for the second half, and has tons of options:

1.) Anderson
2.) Davies
3.) Houser
4.) Chacin
5.) Woodruff
6.) Peralta
7.) Burnes
8.) Gio
9.) Smyly
10.) Wilkerson
11.) Miller

Bullpen is where he’ll add.


Don't confuse quality with quantity. Miller is not an option. He's been awful even in the minors. Highly doubtful Wilkerson gets recalled ever again. Smyly is hanging on in AAA. Both Burnes and Peralta have been given enough opportunities and both have proven so far they can't be starters. Gio is hurt. Houser has been awful in a starter's role, pretty darn good in the pen. Anderson is a #5 at best. When he brings his A game he is decent. When he doesn't he gets shelled. Pretty much what you'd expect from a #5. Chacin has been wildly inconsistent, nowhere near the pitcher he was last year. Everybody has quantity. Few have quality enough to be consistent winners.


I believe more quality than you describe.

Gio is pitching in rehab, so he should be back before the trade deadline, Houser will be just fine as a starter, he just needs stretched out, Burnes and Peralta haven’t proven that they can’t start, I’m hoping Stearns adds a couple pen arms so Burnes and peralta can go to AAA in August to start and pitch in the rotation in September.


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 7:24 AM Post
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I've never been a fan of Miller. Even in his heyday early with St. Louis he gave up lots of flyball outs. Classic hard thrower without movement. Doesn't play in today's game.


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 8:35 AM Post
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I like the signing, but hard to believe this would preclude us from adding a more established starter. These are longshots, the likelihood of either wearing a brewer uniform are for sure less than 50%.


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 8:44 AM Post
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Brew crew 92 said:
By signing him and Smyly, to me, that signals no trade for a starter at the deadline. I believe Stearns thinks he has enough potential starters for the second half, and has tons of options:

1.) Anderson
2.) Davies
3.) Houser
4.) Chacin
5.) Woodruff
6.) Peralta
7.) Burnes
8.) Gio
9.) Smyly
10.) Wilkerson
11.) Miller

Bullpen is where he’ll add.


Disagree with this completely. Miller and Smyly are simply no-risk "shot in the dark" signings of talented pitchers that are still young enough to right the ship. They are very similar to Miley's signing last year. Potentially a big upside, and really no downside. Having a couple vets kicking around AAA isn't going to preclude them from making a rotation addition at the ML level should the situation present itself.


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 8:51 AM Post
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I look at this signing and the first thing I think is, "Hernan Perez would be a better pitcher."

I am honestly not kidding.


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 9:28 AM Post
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KeithStone53151 said:
I like the signing, but hard to believe this would preclude us from adding a more established starter. These are longshots, the likelihood of either wearing a brewer uniform are for sure less than 50%.


I hope you are right...


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Posted: July 12, 2019, 1:28 PM Post
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Pugger said:
KeithStone53151 said:
I like the signing, but hard to believe this would preclude us from adding a more established starter. These are longshots, the likelihood of either wearing a brewer uniform are for sure less than 50%.


I hope you are right...

Miller hasn't even been used as a starter since mid-May. Plenty of things may preclude the Brewers from adding a starter (asking price, other teams, etc) but Shelby Miller isn't one of them.


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Posted: August 27, 2019, 2:35 PM Post

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shelby miller has exercised a release clause in his minor league contract and is now a free agent.


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Posted: August 27, 2019, 7:03 PM Post
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wow the Brewers could not get him up to milwaukee.


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