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Posted: August 04, 2019, 10:01 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
yes, grandal or moustakas could be designated for assignment in august, forcing the brewers to either try to outright them to the minors by clearing waivers (either has enough service time to refuse the minor league assignment), or release them.

advantage of the new club to signing a released player: the new club pays a pro-rated minimum and the original club is on the hook for the majority of his remaining salary. disadvantage of waiting until the player is released: competing with 28 other teams on the free market, as opposed to just the teams ahead of you in the waiver claim process, and the acquiring team assumes all responsibility for the remainder of the contract.

any team could submit $50,000 to the brewers and claim either on outright assignment waivers.

the claiming team would be responsible for the remainder of the player's contract--including the mutual option for 2020 in the case of grandal and moustakas.

i think it's reasonable to expect that many teams will try to expose veteran players to outright waivers in late august.


Not sure why team would have to designate said player for assignment.. players were run thru waivers for years while still being active in the majors.


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Posted: August 05, 2019, 6:45 AM Post
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The Brewers should really evaluate where they are at at the end of August and consider putting Moose and Grandal on waivers. If they got rid of them would save on September salary and not having to pay the option after the season and hopefully ownership would let Stearns use those funds for 2020. Would imagine teams would put claims on them and the Brewers would be off the hook. Just another option for smaller markets like Milwaukee, gives them the opportunity to sign these bigger free agents to one year deals with mutual options that are never picked up but if things go south for the team they get rid of the player and the liability to pay the option.


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Posted: August 05, 2019, 7:02 AM Post

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rickh150 said:
Not sure why team would have to designate said player for assignment.. players were run thru waivers for years while still being active in the majors.

those days are gone. august 2018 was the last time that revocable waivers could happen.

they're irrevocable waivers now. the team must commit to removing the player from the 40-man roster, and potentially, the organization entirely.


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Posted: August 05, 2019, 8:18 AM Post
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Technically, that's true. But it would be pretty easy for the GMs to set up a Group email and unofficially waive guys and see if anybody wants to pick them up.

Obviously, guys could lie and not actually pick up a player they said they would, but that would be awfully bad business if everybody knew you lied.


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Posted: August 05, 2019, 7:32 PM Post

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it should be noted that players with a full no-trade clause in their contract or players with ten-and-five service (ten years, the last five with the same club) cannot be placed on irrevocable outright waivers. they can be released, but there's no way for another club to immediately assume responsibility for the remainder of the player's contract.

we're not aware of any players on the brewers with a full no-trade clause, but ryan braun certainly qualifies as a ten-and-five player.


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Posted: August 09, 2019, 6:57 PM Post

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not that long ago, the number of days that a team had to trade, release or outright a player after designating him for assignment was 10 days. it was reduced to seven days with the latest collective bargaining agreement.

i wonder if the players will push for a reduction of that time period for dfas made after the unitary trade deadline through the end of the world series.

seeing as trades can't be made after the 31 july deadline, the club has two options: try to outright the player or give him his outright release. the club no longer gets anything in return (except for $50,000 for the potential waiver claim and potential salary relief), so it's not like they need time to negotiate with other clubs on a potential return.

thus, i wonder if it makes sense to keep the seven-day period for a dfa before the unitary trade deadline, but perhaps down to three or four days after the unitary trade deadline. i haven't followed the post-deadline transactions of other teams, but the brewers have certainly moved quickly in their outright attempts of donnie hart and jacob barnes.


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