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Posted: September 04, 2019, 7:37 AM Post
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One of my all time personal favorite Brewers.

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And his legend is captured best over here: viewtopic.php?f=82&t=6633

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Posted: September 04, 2019, 8:14 AM Post
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Looks like he last played in the minors in 2013 for the Angels AAA team. I wonder why he waited until now to retire? Perhaps his player pension package is bigger if he waited until he was 40 (he turns 40 in December)?


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 9:59 AM Post
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Darn it, so you mean to say we could have signed him up until today?


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 2:04 PM Post
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Baldkin said:
One of my all time personal favorite Brewers.

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And his legend is captured best over here: viewtopic.php?f=82&t=6633



I have to laugh, I wrote that post, sure genius by accident!


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 2:27 PM Post
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One of my all time favorite Brewers, even if his time as a "star" was relatively short. He was a highlight often, during the mid 2000's era, when we had some shaky but somewhat competitive teams of up and coming young players.

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Posted: September 04, 2019, 2:31 PM Post
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Darn it, so you mean to say we could have signed him up until today?


Couldn't be any worse than Arcia, amirite?

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Posted: September 04, 2019, 2:35 PM Post
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Late April 2004

Hall hits a walkoff home run against Cincinnati. The next night, he wins an extra-innings game with a walkoff squeeze bunt.

It was then that I decided to get a pin-striped Hall jersey that I still wear to this day at many games.


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 2:40 PM Post
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The next night, he wins an extra-innings game with a walkoff squeeze bunt.


This is the game the Brewers were losing 9-0 in the 4th.

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Posted: September 04, 2019, 3:02 PM Post
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Looks like he last played in the minors in 2013 for the Angels AAA team. I wonder why he waited until now to retire? Perhaps his player pension package is bigger if he waited until he was 40 (he turns 40 in December)?


Since he has acquired zero MLB service time since 2012 it makes no difference at what age he "retires". This is just really weird that a player of his caliber gets a retirement ceremony 7 years since he last played. If this is a marketing ploy by the team, they could have picked a more well-known player. I highly doubt people were rushing to buy tickets to the game now that Bill Hall will be there. Heck, I bet half of the fans in the stadium have only been fans for a few years and will have no idea who he even is.


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 3:41 PM Post
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Brewers signed him as a pitcher today.


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 5:00 PM Post
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Patrick425 said:
Looks like he last played in the minors in 2013 for the Angels AAA team. I wonder why he waited until now to retire? Perhaps his player pension package is bigger if he waited until he was 40 (he turns 40 in December)?


Since he has acquired zero MLB service time since 2012 it makes no difference at what age he "retires". This is just really weird that a player of his caliber gets a retirement ceremony 7 years since he last played. If this is a marketing ploy by the team, they could have picked a more well-known player. I highly doubt people were rushing to buy tickets to the game now that Bill Hall will be there. Heck, I bet half of the fans in the stadium have only been fans for a few years and will have no idea who he even is.


Are you saying this because you have knowledge of how the MLB players pension works, or are you just making assumptions? My wife has the rare fortune of having a pension plan (defined benefit -entirely employer funded). She grandfathered into it before the company discontinued it for new employees. I know that for her plan if she quits at 62, but waits until 65 to start collecting, she gets more than if she collected right away at 62.


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 6:11 PM Post
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Brewers signed him as a pitcher today.


Bingo!


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Posted: September 04, 2019, 6:54 PM Post
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Patrick425 said:
jerichoholicninja said:
Patrick425 said:
Looks like he last played in the minors in 2013 for the Angels AAA team. I wonder why he waited until now to retire? Perhaps his player pension package is bigger if he waited until he was 40 (he turns 40 in December)?


Since he has acquired zero MLB service time since 2012 it makes no difference at what age he "retires". This is just really weird that a player of his caliber gets a retirement ceremony 7 years since he last played. If this is a marketing ploy by the team, they could have picked a more well-known player. I highly doubt people were rushing to buy tickets to the game now that Bill Hall will be there. Heck, I bet half of the fans in the stadium have only been fans for a few years and will have no idea who he even is.


Are you saying this because you have knowledge of how the MLB players pension works, or are you just making assumptions? My wife has the rare fortune of having a pension plan (defined benefit -entirely employer funded). She grandfathered into it before the company discontinued it for new employees. I know that for her plan if she quits at 62, but waits until 65 to start collecting, she gets more than if she collected right away at 62.

Players do not start collecting their pension after they retire. He could not have officially retired at 32 and started collecting.


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Posted: September 05, 2019, 6:48 AM Post
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Stick him in the lineup to face Quintana.


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Posted: September 05, 2019, 7:53 AM Post

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I too am the proud owner of a Bill Hall pinstripe jersey. Along with Ben Sheets, one of my favorite players of this century. So glad we resigned him. I say we just add him to the 40 man for the rest of the year and see what he's got left. Put a pink bat in his hand and let the magic happen. No more ridiculous than the premise in Mr. 3000.


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Posted: September 05, 2019, 8:05 AM Post
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He's coming home.


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Posted: September 05, 2019, 11:14 AM Post
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Players do not start collecting their pension after they retire. He could not have officially retired at 32 and started collecting.



When are they eligible to start collecting?

Edit: Never mind. Found this. Although it's from 2012. If it's still valid, looks like earliest day to start receiving pension benefits is 1st day of the month following 45th birthday.

http://www.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/bhb/eng/mlb-0f0-pension-print.pdf


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Posted: September 05, 2019, 6:37 PM Post
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Patrick425 said:

Are you saying this because you have knowledge of how the MLB players pension works, or are you just making assumptions? My wife has the rare fortune of having a pension plan (defined benefit -entirely employer funded). She grandfathered into it before the company discontinued it for new employees. I know that for her plan if she quits at 62, but waits until 65 to start collecting, she gets more than if she collected right away at 62.



No, it definitely doesn't matter if you're not on a 40 man roster.

I know it's a big difference in the NFL.

Regardless, very few people get pensions. You're Wife is extremely fortunate. It's down to like 5-6 pct of people in this country still earn pensions. Protected against bankruptcy, protected against lawsuit, they can't take it under any circumstance, correct? I mean...unless someone is embezzling from the company and steals the pension fund which has caused some enormous scandals.

Anyway...loved Bill Hall. 35 bombs as our SS....he always seemed like a good dude.


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Posted: September 05, 2019, 6:46 PM Post
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Do other teams do these types of things? Or is this just what a franchise like the Brewers do?


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Posted: September 05, 2019, 6:49 PM Post
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Do other teams do these types of things? Or is this just what a franchise like the Brewers do?


I get the Wall of Honor...but an official retirement thing? What on earth....? He didn’t even amass 10 WAR in his career and never had any type of award.

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