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Posted: September 10, 2019, 11:02 PM Post
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Yelich out sucks for sure but I'm not as worked up as some. Grisham deserves to play more now and will. He needs to hit. Hiura has to get back fast and hit. Moose needs to get back fast and hit. Shaw I give up. He's done. Austin appears to have some value and if Arcia is feeling good about his kids born and can get his mind right for 20games that would help. Braun needs to be Braun and Thames keep doing what you been doing bro. If anything Counsell needs to give Grandal a day off soon so he doesn't turn to dust and he can stay hitting. If the pitching can pick it up a bit they can still make it but if any of those things don't then it's a wrap.


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Posted: September 10, 2019, 11:03 PM Post
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This doctor's projected timeline is 4-6 months if Yelich doesn't need surgery and 9-11 months if he does.
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If this is accurate really hoping it doesn't require surgery.



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Posted: September 10, 2019, 11:11 PM Post
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Wow this is good info. Thanks for posting. Worst case scenario means he misses most of next year too is unbelievable. This franchise cannot catch a break.


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Posted: September 10, 2019, 11:16 PM Post
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Ya'll thought I was joking in the IGT didn't you?

but it's not like every guy suddenly forgot every piece of advice he gave


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 4:04 AM Post
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If Yelich was healthy and continued playing at an 8 WAR pace, pro-rated the Brewers would gain 1 WAR the rest of the way. Having Shaw improve to replacement level the rest of the way would make up a third of the difference.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 4:07 AM Post
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If Yelich was healthy and continued playing at an 8 WAR pace, pro-rated the Brewers would gain 1 WAR the rest of the way. Having Shaw improve to replacement level the rest of the way would make up a third of the difference.


If he hasn't done that by now, it probably isn't going to happen in the next 2 weeks. Shaw is toast, at least for 2019.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:23 AM Post
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Depending on the xrays Yeli should be back by April. Fracture will take 6 weeks to heal and then probably another 6 weeks of getting into game shape.

The real concern is long term effects from the fracture. The break more than likely involves his joint. He could develop post traumatic arthritis. Get knee swelling and other recurrent symptoms. Its so hard to know without looking at xrays. Also each individual heals so differently and a different pace.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:24 AM Post
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Really the variance in time comes from how long it takes for him to regain his quad strength and his range of motion.

Also if he has a lot a swelling after the fracture heals it will slow down recovery time.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:29 AM Post
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All the Cards fans gloating that the Brewers are done.

They don't seem to realize that Yelich isn't the only one who hits.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:35 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
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He's just wondering aloud, not predicting. Nothing wrong with that. Saying it will take historical miracle to make the playoffs is just as outlandish.


I think it's just frustration. Most fans are already bummed enough tonight without the immediate worst case scenario unfounded speculation.


I was really referring to their reality of not being very good and how a team with such a bad run differential has never made it (which technically isn’t final). Even if they do make it such a team with a negative run differential even sniffing the WS once in is quite a pipe dream...so really, how upsetting can this be even if it were to “derail the season”. Which by itself really can’t.

It’s not my prediction...nor am I really saying that is what I think. Just that when you look at it at face value the odds are incredibly stacked against us not only to get in, but to win games once there. The average person has been calling the season over short of a miracle for a long time. Heck people have written off WS for months.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:48 AM Post
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I am much more concerned about Yelich’s future than I am about this Brewers season.

I am one of those who emotionally wrote off this season quite awhile ago on the basis that making the playoffs was a very long shot and advancing very far in the playoffs was even more unlikely. Not what I hoped for coming into the season.

I am enjoying watching the Brewers now as an unexpected bonus of games that have meaning as long as I don’t think about teams like the Dodgers, Astros, and Yankees lurking in the future. But until yesterday I thought we at least had the prospect of watching one of the best players in baseball every day. Even the possibility that he could miss much or all of next season and/or never be the same player he has been these last two years, is about as depressing as it gets for a sports fan.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:58 AM Post
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It must be readily apparent by now to all of us including the naysayers(understandably so)that this brewers team is not the same team of just 2 weeks ago. Injuries notwithstanding. This team with all the youngins from AAA, who by the way, were a very special team all year, in their own right, have added not just talent, but energy to an already confident September team. I’m not saying Yelich is not a huge loss, it is, after all he’s the best September player in all of baseball, how could he not be missed, but we will get our other wounded back over the course of the next week to 10 days, and that will more than compensate for the loss of Yelich. The intangible factor of the team rallying together can’t be measured by statistics, but will CONTINUE on, not start now, but continue till this team gets to the playoffs.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:04 AM Post
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I can see everyone else getting more focused after this. Hell, maybe this could snap Shaw out of his slump.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:26 AM Post

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Have you seen the kind of shape this guy is in? His body physiology is off the charts.

roxane hasn't.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:28 AM Post
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If Yelich has a year where he isn’t moving around as well as normal, he could solve our first-base problem, which would lead to solving the playing time for Grisham, Braun, and Cain problem.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:53 AM Post
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Brew crew 92 said:
It must be readily apparent by now to all of us including the naysayers(understandably so)that this brewers team is not the same team of just 2 weeks ago. Injuries notwithstanding. This team with all the youngins from AAA, who by the way, were a very special team all year, in their own right, have added not just talent, but energy to an already confident September team. I’m not saying Yelich is not a huge loss, it is, after all he’s the best September player in all of baseball, how could he not be missed, but we will get our other wounded back over the course of the next week to 10 days, and that will more than compensate for the loss of Yelich. The intangible factor of the team rallying together can’t be measured by statistics, but will CONTINUE on, not start now, but continue till this team gets to the playoffs.


We certainly haven't agreed on much this season, but I'm with you on this. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that a team used an injured superstar as rally fuel. This team no longer has any expectations. They are going to be everyone's underdog, and are basically playing with house money at this point. Other players are going to have to step up, and Counsell is going to have to manage out of his mind. Can it happen? Maybe, maybe not. But I'm sure as heck going to enjoy the ride.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 7:18 AM Post
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FVBrewerFan said:
They may be a game out after tonight, that's not in the universe of a historical miracle.


It's not inconceivable they still get in. There's still firepower in the lineup and the schedule isn't daunting, but he'll be missed.


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djoctagone said:
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Have you seen the kind of shape this guy is in? His body physiology is off the charts.

roxane hasn't.


I for one, can use my eyes to see that his body fat percentage is just a tick too high, so it is clearly on the charts. [tongue]


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yes I hope the team rally around Yelich injury and make their playoff push.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 7:32 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
Brew crew 92 said:
It must be readily apparent by now to all of us including the naysayers(understandably so)that this brewers team is not the same team of just 2 weeks ago. Injuries notwithstanding. This team with all the youngins from AAA, who by the way, were a very special team all year, in their own right, have added not just talent, but energy to an already confident September team. I’m not saying Yelich is not a huge loss, it is, after all he’s the best September player in all of baseball, how could he not be missed, but we will get our other wounded back over the course of the next week to 10 days, and that will more than compensate for the loss of Yelich. The intangible factor of the team rallying together can’t be measured by statistics, but will CONTINUE on, not start now, but continue till this team gets to the playoffs.


We certainly haven't agreed on much this season, but I'm with you on this. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that a team used an injured superstar as rally fuel. This team no longer has any expectations. They are going to be everyone's underdog, and are basically playing with house money at this point. Other players are going to have to step up, and Counsell is going to have to manage out of his mind. Can it happen? Maybe, maybe not. But I'm sure as heck going to enjoy the ride.


Yup, remember the Ewing Theory. Teams get hot or do better after losing their star players. Knicks making Finals with Ewing hurt, TN winning the National Title the year after Manning leaves, things like that. If any sport is more susceptible to it it's baseball due to the reasons some just pointed out in regards to how little impact 1 baseball player has on a game compared to the other team sports.

At this point I'd consider just making it a great success and be content with it. Happen to win the game vs WAS and anything after is just gravy.

One thing I'd add is regarding Counsel. In spite of all the ripping he gets and nitpicking this or that decision. One thing I think that's been clear his whole tenure is the attitude, karma, or positive energy of the team. Really, this is probably the most important thing a manager can do and he seems to have the right personality for it. This should come into play big time now.


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