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Posted: September 20, 2019, 9:15 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
FVBrewerFan said:
(Also, WC game doesn't matter as much because they'll have everyone they could possibly need and then some.)

wild card game is a 25-man roster. game 163 and anything beyond prior to the wild card game or nlds is a 40-man roster.


But the days off for these games means that for the most part everyone is available every game outside of a couple of starting pitchers. The 3 game set is the only time you are really limited outside of SP as some of your bullpen is probably off limits.


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Posted: September 20, 2019, 9:17 PM Post
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Perez will make it over Austin. Maybe he shouldn't, but that's the way it will be.

I think I'd leave Guerra and Gonzalez and one of Black or Jackson off as well (whoever implodes in the last week).

It's crazy that Hader is the only guy on the staff truly guaranteed to make the NLDS roster, and we are less than 2 weeks from it's start.


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Posted: September 20, 2019, 9:21 PM Post
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It's crazy that Hader is the only guy on the staff truly guaranteed to make the NLDS roster, and we are less than 2 weeks from it's start.


I think Pomeranz is a pretty solid bet [wink]


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 5:25 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
Oxy said:
It's crazy that Hader is the only guy on the staff truly guaranteed to make the NLDS roster, and we are less than 2 weeks from it's start.


I think Pomeranz is a pretty solid bet [wink]


I'd say Hader, Pomeranz, Woodruff, Guerra, Lyles, and Houser are stone cold locks. A couple of those guys could maybe play their way off with a few nightmare outings between now and then but for the most part they're going to be there.

Really can't see Suter or Peralta being left off right now, either, but again things can change. Nelson and Taylor Williams have absolutely no shot and Devin Williams, Matt Albers and Jake Faria are really long shots. Jay Jackson and Alex Claudio are guys who really need strong performances down the stretch to solidify a spot. Corbin Burnes would need a string of several really outstanding performances these last 8 games.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 5:34 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Joey Meyer Bombs said:
Oxy said:
It's crazy that Hader is the only guy on the staff truly guaranteed to make the NLDS roster, and we are less than 2 weeks from it's start.


I think Pomeranz is a pretty solid bet [wink]


I'd say Hader, Pomeranz, Woodruff, Guerra, Lyles, and Houser are stone cold locks. A couple of those guys could maybe play their way off with a few nightmare outings between now and then but for the most part they're going to be there.

Really can't see Suter or Peralta being left off right now, either, but again things can change. Nelson and Taylor Williams have absolutely no shot and Devin Williams, Matt Albers and Jake Faria are really long shots. Jay Jackson and Alex Claudio are guys who really need strong performances down the stretch to solidify a spot. Corbin Burnes would need a string of several really outstanding performances these last 8 games.


Burnes has pitched 1 inning since the end of August. If there is a playoff roster he won’t be on it. Also, I’d be surprised if Claudio wasn’t on any post-season given the time crunch between WC game and NLDS


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 5:52 AM Post
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I think Burnes is a real long shot, maybe 5% at best.
But if he got more work and ended up with 5 scoreless innings more these last 8 games striking out two batters an inning, do I think they'd start giving him strong consideration again? Yes, absolutely.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 6:01 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
I think Burnes is a real long shot, maybe 5% at best.
But if he got more work and ended up with 5 scoreless innings more these last 8 games striking out two batters an inning, do I think they'd start giving him strong consideration again? Yes, absolutely.


Totally agree.
If he pitches some these last 8 games, imo, that means it’s possible there at least considering him for the playoffs.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 6:19 AM Post
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long ball said:
WC Roster

SP: (2) Woodruff, Lyles (will depend on how it's lined up the days leading up to it and if 163 is needed but these are preferable)
RP: (10) Hader, Pomeranz, Suter, Claudio, Guerra, Black, Peralta, Albers, Jackson, Houser
C: (2) Grandal, Pina
Inf: (6) Thames, Austin, Hiura, Arcia, Moustakas, Spangenberg
OF: (5) Cain, Braun, Gamel, Grisham, Taylor
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I will go off this one

Pitchers
Locks - Woodruff, Lyles, Hader, Pomeranz, Suter, Guerra, Houser
Near Locks - Peralta
Battling for the last four spots - Gio, Anderson, Davies, Albers, Jackson, Black, Claudio

Hitters
Locks - Grisham, Cain, Braun, Gamel, Moose, Arcia, Huira, Thames, Grandal, Pina
Near Locks - Spangenberg, Perez
Maybe Options - Austin, Taylor, Shaw

With the reality of how little real depth we have at the hitting spots I guess I could see us carrying 13 pitchers and only 12 bats. I dont see how Albers makes it at this point. That would leave 6 pitchers for 4 or 5 spots. That is going to be a tough call. Will Claudio's only being able to pitch to lefties keep him off? Anderson seems like the perfect piggy back starter when you look at his numbers.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 6:33 AM Post
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jjfanec said:
long ball said:
WC Roster

SP: (2) Woodruff, Lyles (will depend on how it's lined up the days leading up to it and if 163 is needed but these are preferable)
RP: (10) Hader, Pomeranz, Suter, Claudio, Guerra, Black, Peralta, Albers, Jackson, Houser
C: (2) Grandal, Pina
Inf: (6) Thames, Austin, Hiura, Arcia, Moustakas, Spangenberg
OF: (5) Cain, Braun, Gamel, Grisham, Taylor
)


I will go off this one

Pitchers
Locks - Woodruff, Lyles, Hader, Pomeranz, Suter, Guerra, Houser
Near Locks - Peralta
Battling for the last four spots - Gio, Anderson, Davies, Albers, Jackson, Black, Claudio

Hitters
Locks - Grisham, Cain, Braun, Gamel, Moose, Arcia, Huira, Thames, Grandal, Pina
Near Locks - Spangenberg, Perez
Maybe Options - Austin, Taylor, Shaw

With the reality of how little real depth we have at the hitting spots I guess I could see us carrying 13 pitchers and only 12 bats. I dont see how Albers makes it at this point. That would leave 6 pitchers for 4 or 5 spots. That is going to be a tough call. Will Claudio's only being able to pitch to lefties keep him off? Anderson seems like the perfect piggy back starter when you look at his numbers.


I think you are spot-on with the exception of Peralta and Spangenberg. IMO they are locks and Perez makes it because of the need for INF. defense with Hiura being limited. With the starters only going 4-5 innings, I think CC keeps 13 pitchers. Claudio and Jackson make it easily and I think Davies is the 3rd starter. The final two spots is between Anderson-Gio-Albers-Black. For some reason CC seems to love Albers so he's probably on the roster. Tough call with the remaining three for the final two spots.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 7:00 AM Post
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I can't see Albers making it. There are just better options. His August and September numbers are downright hideous. And as someone who isn't a huge K guy and can't go multiple innings, he has no real role or function in the pen.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 7:00 AM Post
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I still see no way they go with 13 pitchers in a Wild Card game as it is almost impossible to use them all. If for no reason than they need actual hitters to pinch hit for the pitching spot.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 7:09 AM Post
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I still see no way they go with 13 pitchers in a Wild Card game as it is almost impossible to use them all. If for no reason than they need actual hitters to pinch hit for the pitching spot.


Agreed...as myself and others have said the WC game roster will be all about availability.

Heck, Josh Hader could be left off the WC roster if they have to win the last game of the season and need 3 innings out of him to do it.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 8:30 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
I can't see Albers making it. There are just better options. His August and September numbers are downright hideous. And as someone who isn't a huge K guy and can't go multiple innings, he has no real role or function in the pen.


The way they've used him this whole season, and continue to use him, indicates that he's pretty high on the totem pole. I think unless he completely implodes in the next week, he's on the playoff roster.


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Posted: September 21, 2019, 9:10 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
adambr2 said:
I can't see Albers making it. There are just better options. His August and September numbers are downright hideous. And as someone who isn't a huge K guy and can't go multiple innings, he has no real role or function in the pen.


The way they've used him this whole season, and continue to use him, indicates that he's pretty high on the totem pole. I think unless he completely implodes in the next week, he's on the playoff roster.


I'm just not seeing it. He's pitched a total of 3 innings in September and hasn't remotely been part of the resurgence, so he's clearly fallen behind some other options. I don't think the way he was used the first 4 months is very meaningful as to how high he is on the totem pole now -- this is a completely different pitching staff than pre-August. Lyles, Pomeranz, Suter, Black, D Williams, and Jackson weren't really options for a postseason roster back then. The former 3 are almost completely assured of spots now, and the latter 3 have a shot.


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Posted: October 01, 2019, 11:51 AM Post

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raise your hand if you had the brewers going with 15 position players and only 10 pitchers for the wild card game.


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Posted: October 01, 2019, 1:33 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
raise your hand if you had the brewers going with 15 position players and only 10 pitchers for the wild card game.


I'm not going to raise my hand but I can see why CC did this with Braun, Cain and Moose banged up.


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Posted: October 01, 2019, 1:45 PM Post
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risky in an extra innings game though. They way CC uses the bullpen, I hope he saves some bullets just in vase. If we have a marathon 16 inning game and are left with Perez to pitch, we might be in trouble.

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Posted: October 01, 2019, 1:52 PM Post
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risky in an extra innings game though. They way CC uses the bullpen, I hope he saves some bullets just in vase. If we have a marathon 16 inning game and are left with Perez to pitch, we might be in trouble.


I think the concern would be the choice of Anderson over Davies. Seems like Anderson only pitches if we get to like the 13th inning and we need him for 4 innings, however in that kind of situation a HR likely ends the season so I would not want to rely on a HR prone pitcher.


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Posted: October 01, 2019, 2:45 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
raise your hand if you had the brewers going with 15 position players and only 10 pitchers for the wild card game.


I'm not going to raise my hand but I can see why CC did this with Braun, Cain and Moose banged up.


I think that is part of it. The other part is the pitcher is very unlikely to ever bat. Maybe Woody if he plays like a champ. Regardless they very well may need more pinch hitters than a normal game...all depends.

The quality of our lesser pitchers is so limited planning for the chance at a 13 inning or more is pointless. Unlikely we could really contain the Nationals that long. It could happen...but I would rather just have the extra bats to PH and save us from injury.


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Posted: October 01, 2019, 6:02 PM Post
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risky in an extra innings game though. They way CC uses the bullpen, I hope he saves some bullets just in vase. If we have a marathon 16 inning game and are left with Perez to pitch, we might be in trouble.

It's one game - what are the chances they need more than 10 pitchers? Woodruff goes 2-3, then six guys to go one inning, leaving three for extra innings.

They'll save Anderson and Lyles for extra innings.


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