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Offline AKCheesehead Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 08, 2019, 7:48 PM Post
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How about a picture depicting Molitor with a suitcase with a YYZ bag tag?
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Online OldSchoolSnapper Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Game 2 and 4 were worse but lacked the finality of 7. As bad as the losses were, I don't think you can honestly say they approach 7 in terms of just wanting to curl into a ball and die. And I really had faith we were going to win 7, especially after 6. Even down 2-1, thought it was going to be an-all time great. The catch was the first time I started to doubt...then the HR I just wanted to die.
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Offline folly412 Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 08, 2019, 8:12 PM Post
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The 14 consecutive losing seasons and 25 consecutive seasons of missing the playoffs were very Sad Panda.
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Offline FVBrewerFan Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Thise Cleveland examples were specific moments. A season or even a game doesn't really fit the mold.
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Offline thebruce44 Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 10:36 AM Post
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Starting Mark Kotsay in CF for a 2011 NLDS game against the Cardinals... A total and complete blunder by Runnin' Ron Roenicke. (RRR)


This one is tough. I mean, which picture do you use in the coloring book!?:

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Offline turborickey Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 10:39 AM Post
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I don't blame Kotsay really, it was a horrible decision made by a horrible manager, RRR is to blame. To give up your defense in CF was inexcusable in a game of that magnitude against the Cardinals of all teams. Still hurts to think about.
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Online Brew4U Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 12:24 PM Post
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I remember that 2011 Brewers-Cardinals series differently. I remember it as a series where our pitchers didn't show up. And if they had, history might be a bit different. Grienke was bad. Gallardo was worse. Marcum was finished. Those three duds are what killed the Brewers chances of winning a World Series with a very talented group of offensive players.
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Offline Underachiever Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 1:58 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
I remember that 2011 Brewers-Cardinals series differently. I remember it as a series where our pitchers didn't show up. And if they had, history might be a bit different. Grienke was bad. Gallardo was worse. Marcum was finished. Those three duds are what killed the Brewers chances of winning a World Series with a very talented group of offensive players.

That's pretty much how I remember it. Just looked it up and STL scored 11 runs in the first inning. Plus they went up 3-0 in the second inning of Game 5 as well. Playing from behind and turning David Freese into a hero.
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Offline MrTPlush Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 2:19 PM Post
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The Mark Kotsay thing is absolutely just comical. First of all he did not play the ball horribly. Does Nyjer Morgan catch that? Probably, but Kotsay was also the best offensive player by a mile that day. Go look at Gallardo's statline in that inning, friggen horrendous.

I can't believe people still complain and think Kotsay was some tragedy in CF that day...if anything it was a wash having him in CF.

If I was going to sum up that series with a single move I would probably pick having Marcum start Game 6. The dude was so clearly toast at that point it was sad...He arguably should never have never been a postseason starter and the fact with the season on the line he turned to Marcum was just pathetically sad. I remember not evening watching Game 6 because he started...result was predictable.

Postseason with Marcum on mound:

1-8 LOSS
3-12 LOSS
6-12 LOSS
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Offline djoctagone Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 2:43 PM Post

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how about dealing with real grief and having a section devoted to the crane collapse and the tragic loss of lives?
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Offline homer Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 3:18 PM Post
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how about dealing with real grief and having a section devoted to the crane collapse and the tragic loss of lives?


Because this is a sports fan website. We'd have no posts if people put things in perspective.
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Offline cesser000 Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 3:18 PM Post
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Not getting the Yankees' first-round pick at #25 in the 2009 draft as compensation for losing Sabathia. It instead went to the Angels who selected Mike Trout, a player that the the Brewers had their eye on supposedly. We instead picked NEXT at #26, selecting Eric Arnett. Absolutely colossal gut punch.

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Offline LouisEly Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 5:53 PM Post
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The Mark Kotsay thing is absolutely just comical. First of all he did not play the ball horribly. Does Nyjer Morgan catch that? Probably, but Kotsay was also the best offensive player by a mile that day. Go look at Gallardo's statline in that inning, friggen horrendous.

Exactly.

Kotsay didn't give up the single to Furcal, or throw the wild pitch that got Furcal to 2nd. If Furcal is on 1st, he doesn't score on the play and Gallardo has a chance to get out of the inning without giving up a run.
Kotsay didn't give up the ground rule double to Pujols.
Kotsay didn't walk Holliday or Berkman, who both came around to score on separate plays well after the play involving Kotsay.
And Kotsay didn't give up the double to Freese.

If Gallardo does his job, at most two runs score, and the Brewers win 3-2.
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Offline turborickey Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 5:56 PM Post
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and yet, Mark Kotsay had no business in CF, period. You can paint it any way you want, but the guy was a hack in the OF. There was plenty of blame to go around, but any manager that thought it was a good idea to start him in CF for a playoff game was just plain stupid. The results were as anyone would have expected. Starting him in CF and hoping he wouldn't hurt you was just asinine.

Pitchers give up hits, that is baseball. As a manager you try to limit the damage by playing competent players at defensive positions, knowing full well they will be called upon to make plays. Pitchers give up hits, defensive players are paid to make the plays when it happens. Kotsay blew that one big time, and RRR was to blame for setting up the defense the way he did.

Wasn't this supposed to be an opinion thread, not a ridicule thread?

Geez.
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Offline LouisEly Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 6:03 PM Post
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and yet, Mark Kotsay had no business in CF, period. You can paint it any way you want, but the guy was a hack in the OF. .

You're absolutely correct - that we aren't arguing with.

What we are arguing with is that starting Kotsay in CF that day cost them the game. In our opinion, it did not.
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Offline turborickey Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 6:15 PM Post
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turborickey said:
and yet, Mark Kotsay had no business in CF, period. You can paint it any way you want, but the guy was a hack in the OF. .

You're absolutely correct - that we aren't arguing with.

What we are arguing with is that starting Kotsay in CF that day cost them the game. In our opinion, it did not.


It was a factor, a large factor, and he was put in a situation that should have never happened. Had Morgan screwed up in CF, that I could live with. This was a travesty, a sham, a mockery, it was a travishamockery!
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Offline CheezWizHed Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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AKCheesehead said:
How about a picture depicting Molitor with a suitcase with a YYZ bag tag?

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Offline Eye Black Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 9:54 PM Post
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Could we have a page dedicated to the organization’s bizarre off-field injury history?

Greinke playing pickup basketball.

Lucroy dropped suitcase incident.

K-Rod stepping on a cactus in Spring Training.

Narveson scissors accident fixing glove.

Nilsson’s bout with Ross River Fever.
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Offline AKCheesehead Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 09, 2019, 11:56 PM Post
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Eye Black said:
Could we have a page dedicated to the organization’s bizarre off-field injury history?

Greinke playing pickup basketball.

Lucroy dropped suitcase incident.

K-Rod stepping on a cactus in Spring Training.

Narveson scissors accident fixing glove.

Nilsson’s bout with Ross River Fever.


Took Nilsson quite some time to recover. Between that and going away for the olympics and then calling it a day, his career could’ve been so much more.

Does Steve Sparks dislocating his shoulder attempting to tear a phone book in half qualify?
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Offline mtrebs Re: Why is Daddy Sad? the Brewers Version
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Posted: October 10, 2019, 5:59 AM Post
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AKCheesehead said:
Eye Black said:
Could we have a page dedicated to the organization’s bizarre off-field injury history?

Greinke playing pickup basketball.

Lucroy dropped suitcase incident.

K-Rod stepping on a cactus in Spring Training.

Narveson scissors accident fixing glove.

Nilsson’s bout with Ross River Fever.


Took Nilsson quite some time to recover. Between that and going away for the olympics and then calling it a day, his career could’ve been so much more.

Does Steve Sparks dislocating his shoulder attempting to tear a phone book in half qualify?


Didn’t someone injure themselves with salad tongs and also someone (Wes Helms) injure his knee slipping in the tunnel near the dugout?
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