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Posted: November 04, 2019, 5:08 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
it should be noted that spanberger is on a minor league contract and is not rule 5 eligible this year, so this transaction does open up a 40-man spot.


This should not be overlooked. Guess that's why you're the roster guru. [wink] It gives the team a boost in the farm without adding to the 40 man roster. Even if he doesn't pan out that 40 man spot might be used to keep a fringe player in the fold who turns it around like Grisham did. While he hasn't shown great promise so far, it adds depth to a system that lacked it. I think a major aspect of keeping a decent feeder system in place is doing this sort of thing. Trading spare or redundant major league parts to add to the overall talent level of the minors is helpful to maintaining long term viability.

There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.


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I'm not even expecting it much less predicting it for 2020. ... . This will be fun.


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True Blue Brew Crew said:
I'm not even expecting it much less predicting it for 2020. ... . This will be fun.


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True Blue Brew Crew said:
I'm not even expecting it much less predicting it for 2020. The options they're giving themselves are intriguing though. Just about anything could transpire when so few roster spots are locked in. If they were ever going to do what to me is inevitable, the door is wide open to it right now. And Chase's comment hints at something. It sure doesn't hint at calling up all the aces they have knocking on the door in the minors. And Stearns couldn't have told Chase Anderson the names of a bunch of starters they intend to sign. What he obviously told him was the outline of a new plan that Chase doesn't fit in. This will be fun.


If you think Stearns told Chase about a plan for 2020 in early November I don't know what to tell you.

All of this because Chase said " It's going to be a different group there next year, but they know what they're doing." ?

Yeah it's going to be a different group......Chase is gone.....and they really only have 1 guy who we know for sure will be in there.

My guess is Stearns told Chase something like this " Chase we've traded you to Toronto. I want to thank you for everything you've done for the Brewers in the years you've been a Brewer. We wish you the best of luck in Toronto"


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 7:03 PM Post
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True Blue Brew Crew said:
I'm not even expecting it much less predicting it for 2020. The options they're giving themselves are intriguing though. Just about anything could transpire when so few roster spots are locked in. If they were ever going to do what to me is inevitable, the door is wide open to it right now. And Chase's comment hints at something. It sure doesn't hint at calling up all the aces they have knocking on the door in the minors. And Stearns couldn't have told Chase Anderson the names of a bunch of starters they intend to sign. What he obviously told him was the outline of a new plan that Chase doesn't fit in. This will be fun.


If you think Stearns told Chase about a plan for 2020 in early November I don't know what to tell you.

All of this because Chase said " It's going to be a different group there next year, but they know what they're doing." ?

Yeah it's going to be a different group......Chase is gone.....and they really only have 1 guy who we know for sure will be in there.

My guess is Stearns told Chase something like this " Chase we've traded you to Toronto. I want to thank you for everything you've done for the Brewers in the years you've been a Brewer. We wish you the best of luck in Toronto"


Agreed that Sterns didn't tell Chase much of anything. At most, if Chase pushed, I expect that Sterns said something generic like needing more roster flexibility. Anderson has seen enough goings on with the Brewers brass to know they have a plan and they know what they are doing.

Best of luck to Chase, I hope he becomes a real thorn in the side of the Yankees and Red Sox.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 7:23 PM Post
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Anderson comments mean nothing. He didn’t have a lengthy conversation with Stearns. Why the heck would he care?


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Some teams cut ties without so much as a phone call. Some teams make contact and give players a reason why they're moving on. The Brewers are one of those teams that take the more personal approach. Chase's statement indicates to me that the Brewers were somewhat forthcoming with what their plan is going forward and why he didn't fit into it. And Chase clearly not only respects them for doing it, he vouched for what they have in mind. Like I said, they couldn't have told him their calling up the farm and going with the youth movement because the prospects aren't there to call on. And Stearns couldn't have told him names of pitchers they intend to sign because there's no way it could be that specific. Free agency is too unpredictable. The direction Stearns gave him could only be vague. It could be as simple as they want to fill the roster with ground ball pitchers and that's not Chase's strength. It could be that they feel they need to add an ACE and need to save every penny in other places that they can. Or it could be something like a whole new approach to getting 27 outs each day. I'm excited that they're shaking things up, that's all.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 7:51 PM Post
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The amount of assumption in your post is boiling over all over the stove. Literally no one knows how the Brewers go about talking to departing players.

Anderson said himself he literally knew nothing about their plan with him until today, not a single thing. Where is it that he even talked to Stearns, period? I’m sure he did, but you make some lofty assumptions about their conversation...I must be missing something. It’s a business, neither side cares about what the other does after they depart...nothing.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 7:58 PM Post
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So basically a guy that crushed A ball as a 22 year old (pretty old for that league as a college sign). Not too impressive of a track record in all honesty. Not a great prospect...but at least you can dream a little bit that he may figure it out.

He was 0.6 years older than league average in A-ball in 2018 when he put up a .942 OPS. In AA in 2019 he was one year younger than league average.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 8:00 PM Post
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The amount of assumption in your post is boiling over all over the stove. Literally no one knows how the Brewers go about talking to departing players.

Anderson said himself he literally knew nothing about their plan with him until today, not a single thing. Where is it that he even talked to Stearns, period? I’m sure he did, but you make some lofty assumptions about their conversation...I must be missing something. It’s a business, neither side cares about what the other does after they depart...nothing.


I don't know a better way to put this other than to simply say that you're wrong.


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This was a no brainer. The difference between Chase and some of the other internal options isn't much different. He is a fine pitcher but 8 million can be better spent elsewhere. Brewers need to cut costs and Chase was just at a cost that was just a bit too high


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MrTPlush said:
The amount of assumption in your post is boiling over all over the stove. Literally no one knows how the Brewers go about talking to departing players.

Anderson said himself he literally knew nothing about their plan with him until today, not a single thing. Where is it that he even talked to Stearns, period? I’m sure he did, but you make some lofty assumptions about their conversation...I must be missing something. It’s a business, neither side cares about what the other does after they depart...nothing.


I don't know a better way to put this other than to simply say that you're wrong.


[rolling eyes]

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Posted: November 04, 2019, 8:26 PM Post
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True Blue Brew Crew said:
MrTPlush said:
The amount of assumption in your post is boiling over all over the stove. Literally no one knows how the Brewers go about talking to departing players.

Anderson said himself he literally knew nothing about their plan with him until today, not a single thing. Where is it that he even talked to Stearns, period? I’m sure he did, but you make some lofty assumptions about their conversation...I must be missing something. It’s a business, neither side cares about what the other does after they depart...nothing.


I don't know a better way to put this other than to simply say that you're wrong.


How high in the Brewers front office did you have to get before you got to sit in on major personnel decisions?

I really don’t see how you would have any idea how they talk to departing players. Especially when Anderson already said he knew nothing until today when he got called. Yet today they had a lengthy conversation about the Brewers plans...idk doesn’t add up to me I guess.


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Nice exaggeration of what I said, hope it makes you feel better. I've heard many things second and third hand about the inner workings of baseball organizations and how teams go about informing players or their release, trades, declined options, etc from people who have worked for MLB organizations. Nowhere did I state the Brewers plan for this offseason. I simply stated that the Brewers are one of the teams that reaches out to players personally when they make decisions such as these with players such as Chase. They made the professional effort in his case to give him an idea of why he's not in their plans for the 2020 season. Chase could've said many things about what was shared with him. He chose to say some telling things. At least they were telling to me given the context of the fractional knowledge I have of how the Brewers do business.


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If you can draw a conclusion that Stearns layed out the Brewers’ 2020 plans of how they are operating their entire pitching staff and went into detail of what they are going to do differently and how they are going to operate based on “it’s going to be a different group there next year, but they know what they’re doing”, then I don’t know what to say. Other than that is totally not factual. Even if it WERE true that they were going to do some non-traditional things, Stearns wouldn’t be going around and telling all the players he is getting rid of what their plans are for the upcoming season. That doesn’t make any bit of sense.

If I had to guess, I would say that Stearns said absolutely nothing about how they are operating their offseason to a now opposing pitcher.

Anderson was traded, not released. If he was released, I could see Anderson asking questions. Even if he did ask, Stearns wouldn’t necessarily need to say. But he was traded. The Brewers got what they needed to out of the move. And Anderson’s services were wanted elsewhere.

Him saying it’s going to be a different group there next year is him realizing it’s going to be a different group there next year. Tons of moving parts, guys hitting free agency, and multiple rotation pieces no longer on the roster. It’s definitely different. Especially when one of the rotation guys himself is traded.

Anderson saying they know what they are doing is Anderson tipping his cap to Stearns acknowledging that Stearns is a smart man and knows how to build a roster to be competitive. Anderson saw it first hand and is tipping his cap on the way out. Classy move by a classy guy. I loved every minute of having Anderson on the Brewers. I wish him nothing but the best with Toronto.


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If you can draw a conclusion that Stearns layed out the Brewers’ 2020 plans of how they are operating their entire pitching staff and went into detail of what they are going to do differently and how they are going to operate based on “it’s going to be a different group there next year, but they know what they’re doing”, then I don’t know what to say. Other than that is totally not factual. Even if it WERE true that they were going to do some non-traditional things, Stearns wouldn’t be going around and telling all the players he is getting rid of what their plans are for the upcoming season. That doesn’t make any bit of sense.

If I had to guess, I would say that Stearns said absolutely nothing about how they are operating their offseason to a now opposing pitcher.

Anderson was traded, not released. If he was released, I could see Anderson asking questions. Even if he did ask, Stearns wouldn’t necessarily need to say. But he was traded. The Brewers got what they needed to out of the move. And Anderson’s services were wanted elsewhere.

Him saying it’s going to be a different group there next year is him realizing it’s going to be a different group there next year. Tons of moving parts, guys hitting free agency, and multiple rotation pieces no longer on the roster. It’s definitely different. Especially when one of the rotation guys himself is traded.

Anderson saying they know what they are doing is Anderson tipping his cap to Stearns acknowledging that Stearns is a smart man and knows how to build a roster to be competitive. Anderson saw it first hand and is tipping his cap on the way out. Classy move by a classy guy. I loved every minute of having Anderson on the Brewers. I wish him nothing but the best with Toronto.


I agree with every word of this post, and believe it to be 100% factual. The reporters asked Anderson what he thought about the Brewers pitching going forward, and he responded by saying it was going to be a different group (it is!) and that the front office knows what it's doing (they do!) It was a classy thing to say on the way out, but in no way a clue or riddle that the team is going to change up how they fundamentally operate.


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RollieTime said:
If you can draw a conclusion that Stearns layed out the Brewers’ 2020 plans of how they are operating their entire pitching staff and went into detail of what they are going to do differently and how they are going to operate based on “it’s going to be a different group there next year, but they know what they’re doing”, then I don’t know what to say. Other than that is totally not factual. Even if it WERE true that they were going to do some non-traditional things, Stearns wouldn’t be going around and telling all the players he is getting rid of what their plans are for the upcoming season. That doesn’t make any bit of sense.

If I had to guess, I would say that Stearns said absolutely nothing about how they are operating their offseason to a now opposing pitcher.

Anderson was traded, not released. If he was released, I could see Anderson asking questions. Even if he did ask, Stearns wouldn’t necessarily need to say. But he was traded. The Brewers got what they needed to out of the move. And Anderson’s services were wanted elsewhere.

Him saying it’s going to be a different group there next year is him realizing it’s going to be a different group there next year. Tons of moving parts, guys hitting free agency, and multiple rotation pieces no longer on the roster. It’s definitely different. Especially when one of the rotation guys himself is traded.

Anderson saying they know what they are doing is Anderson tipping his cap to Stearns acknowledging that Stearns is a smart man and knows how to build a roster to be competitive. Anderson saw it first hand and is tipping his cap on the way out. Classy move by a classy guy. I loved every minute of having Anderson on the Brewers. I wish him nothing but the best with Toronto.


I agree with every word of this post, and believe it to be 100% factual. The reporters asked Anderson what he thought about the Brewers pitching going forward, and he responded by saying it was going to be a different group (it is!) and that the front office knows what it's doing (they do!) It was a classy thing to say on the way out, but in no way a clue or riddle that the team is going to change up how they fundamentally operate.


"But men may construe things after their fashion, Clean from the purpose of the thing themselves." (Julius Caesar, 1.3.34-35)--in which Shakespeare's Cicero tells Cassius to cool it on the hot stove rumors already. We'll all know the truth in time, and (the Ides of) March is a long way away.

What is best in life? To crush the Cardinals, Cubs, and Manny Machado, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their fanboys.


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Yah, he did what every other classy player says when leaving...says the team has a bright future and said something nicely about the pitching staff he is not good enough for. It is just nothing more than that. I also didn’t exaggerate anything. You thought I was so comically wrong you had nothing more to say than just that...I was 100% wrong. To know that you must have been in the room with one of them with the phone on speaker. You couldn’t even say why I was wrong...kinda lame, but probably because there is no factual evidence out there to support why you think that.

If you want to over analyze simple comments that are made like clockwork go ahead...I just think there is nothing being hinted.


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Watched Chad play in high school, lived in Granite City for 10 years. Hope to see him play for the big club some day!


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MrTPlush said:
So basically a guy that crushed A ball as a 22 year old (pretty old for that league as a college sign). Not too impressive of a track record in all honesty. Not a great prospect...but at least you can dream a little bit that he may figure it out.


definitely worth dreaming. Some sluggers take longer. Teams gave up on Jose Bautista, Nelson Cruz, Brandon Phillips, and countless others.


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