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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:03 PM Post
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I guess they couldn't find a trade partner at that price? Seems like we could have gotten another Spanberger like return and still saved the cash...


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:07 PM Post
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I guess they couldn't find a trade partner at that price? Seems like we could have gotten another Spanberger like return and still saved the cash...


Not a very big market for non-versatile power-hitting 1B types. There is going to be a long of those guys available for just money, and at less than what Thames would be making, this offseason.


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Grisham for Dom Smith -- 1B solved [smile]

Maybe. You gotta think they are looking for a full time answer at first. They didn't cut bait on Thames to pick up a couple of jabornes to platoon at first. Or maybe they did. Who knows.

but it's not like every guy suddenly forgot every piece of advice he gave


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:10 PM Post
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Surhoff5 said:
Grisham for Dom Smith -- 1B solved [smile]

Dominic Smith was the first thing that went through my mind when I saw this news. My bold prediction for the Brewers off-season is that Dominic Smith is the starting first baseman on Opening Day 2020.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:13 PM Post
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I'll say they sign Grandal and have him play 1st for 75 games and catch for 75 games.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:14 PM Post
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I think they go internal with 1B now. I just can't fathom cutting Thames at $6.5mil to go external and save essentially nothing. Even .850 OPS first baseman don't grow on trees. He was 12th in baseball for OPS.

Obviously the Brewers view the in house options as providing similar enough production it is worth saving $6.5mil.

MAYBE this means Shaw stays, but Thames is only slightly more expensive. Would they really risk Shaw actually being a terrible baseball player again (Shaw is a $1.5mil cost savings)? I expect Shaw to get the axe. I think Moustakas is getting pretty obvious as a return candidate and possibly this is indictive of Grandal coming back too.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:15 PM Post
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Oxy said:
I'll say they sign Grandal and have him play 1st for 75 games and catch for 75 games.


That totally defeats the purpose of signing Grandal.

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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:16 PM Post
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Oxy said:
I'll say they sign Grandal and have him play 1st for 75 games and catch for 75 games.


That totally defeats the purpose of signing Grandal.


Yah, why pay Grandal $20mil a year to play half his time at 1B and be average. Poor use of money/personnel.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:16 PM Post
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They might risk that because it's a great way for a team like them to survive. If he's even average they saved $8mm to spend on somebody else. I think this is a play for Grandal but obviously we're going to find out soon. I agree though, I'm not expecting a big time FA 1B.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:19 PM Post
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2 moves later, and the Brewers trimmed 16 million in payroll and cut down to around 90 million if they keep everyone if my math is any good. They can obviously cut guys like Shaw if they choose and save more. There's definitely enough payroll to make a big signing or a few medium sized signings, or a trade that takes on payroll. Will be interesting to see what we do.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:26 PM Post
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Brauns contract is up next year so about $20 millions extra from that as well


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:31 PM Post
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Braun has a $4mm buyout. Obviously the Brewers aren't picking up the $20 million, but it seems possible they scrap it and he comes back on a new deal. There is no reason he can't be a veteran bat off the bench and spot starter. He is still good, and wouldn't have a ton of suitors. Of course at his age, he could suck in 2020 and it's an easy decision. I don't think he'd leave to go play in Toronto. I could see him in California but not sure they'd want him.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:31 PM Post
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I read a Forbes article and therefore I believe the Brewers can spend over $600 million on payroll.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:36 PM Post
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What we know:
* They're freeing up cash.
* They have a lot of avenues for improvement. (C, SP, 3B, SS, now both halves of 1B platoon)
* They haven't made a lot of big-money, long-term signings. (Basically just Cain in the past few years.)
* They value versatility, depth, and cost-effectiveness.

What we don't know:
* Do they have a specific plan for the money they've saved today? (I doubt it.)
* Do they have particular areas of need they're focused on? (You could argue that today is evidence that SP and 1B are lower priorities than we thought, but I would tend to disagree.)
* Do they have particular free agents (or trade partners?) they're focused on?

What I tend to think is there are probably a bunch of potential uses for the money being freed up, but there's also still a lot of uncertainty. There's not a specific plan, but there are several that look juicy enough to justift dumping a couple of short, non-terrible contracts for merely-not-terrible players.


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Brauns contract is up next year so about $20 millions extra from that as well


It is about $13mil coming off the books. His salary next year is $17mil and then in 2021 we owe him a $4mil buyout.


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I read a Forbes article and therefore I believe the Brewers can spend over $600 million on payroll.


That hopefully means they'll have enough to afford to resign David Freitas. Eight years and $182 million ought to be enough. A bargain for such a professional hitter!


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:40 PM Post
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Technically we're paying Braun like $2mm a year until he's 50 or something in deferred money. Think we're still paying Garza.


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Posted: November 04, 2019, 1:42 PM Post
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OldSchoolSnapper said:
Technically we're paying Braun like $2mm a year until he's 50 or something in deferred money. Think we're still paying Garza.


Which doesn't start till 2022, ends in his age 47 season. Garza on the books two more years.


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