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#81

Posted: February 20, 2020, 10:00 AM Post
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Keston will play a lot but he won't and shouldn't play 162. We have enough depth on this team to keep guys fresh throughout the season and I fully expect Counsell to take advantage of that.

"I'm not as good as I was but in big moments I'm still the guy. I want that opportunity." -Ryan Braun


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Posted: February 20, 2020, 3:12 PM Post
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If we are really that concerned about his defense pull him after the home 7th or road 6th for a defensive sub in games where we have a lead. He's a starter. He'll rest a few games but he's an every day guy.


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 12:05 AM Post
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My lineup:

Cain-CF
Yelich-LF
Braun/Garcia- RF
Hiura-2B
Smoak-1B
Narvaez-C
Holt/Jerkstore-3B
Urias/Sogard-SS
P

Although to be 100% honest, I am fine with moving this around in most ways except I believe Yelich should hit 2nd. I also think we are going to see more Sogard at SS than what I hear people talking about. I feel pretty darn confident that Urias will point left handed pitching.


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 3:16 AM Post
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As stated in another thread.

1st batter OBP in 2018 was 357
1st batter OBP in 2019 was 324

That needs to be fixed even if it means putting Holt and Sogard as a lead off platoon. Or Holt/Cain platoon. This team can't let Cain sit in the 1 hole if he's sub 350 OBP vs that days split.


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 7:42 AM Post
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I am in agreement on leadoff. I'd probably go something like this now that we have Holt

Vs RHP
3b Holt
LF Yelich
2b Hiura
C Narvaez
RF Garcia
1B Smoak
CF Cain
P
SS Sogard(until Urias is back)

Vs LHP
CF Cain
LF Yelich
2B Hiura
RF Garcia
1B Braun
3B Gyorko
C Pina
P
SS Urias

Once Urias is back I really like him in the 9 hole setting up Yelich & Hiura


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 8:37 AM Post
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I'm expecting a rebound year for Cain, in the middle of his 2018 and 2019 campaigns for OBP so around .360 which I think is reasonable.


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 3:12 PM Post
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MVP2110 said:
I am in agreement on leadoff. I'd probably go something like this now that we have Holt

Vs RHP
3b Holt
LF Yelich
2b Hiura
C Narvaez
RF Garcia
1B Smoak
CF Cain
P
SS Sogard(until Urias is back)

Vs LHP
CF Cain
LF Yelich
2B Hiura
RF Garcia
1B Braun
3B Gyorko
C Pina
P
SS Urias

Once Urias is back I really like him in the 9 hole setting up Yelich & Hiura


IF Cain regains his OBP ability, I like him leading off against either RP or LP.
Against RHP
CF Cain
3B Holt
LF Yelich
1B Braun (he'll get the bulk of the ABs at 1B)/Smoak
2B Huira
C Narvaez
RF Garcia
SS Sogard/Urias
P

Against LHP
CF Cain
2B Huira
LF Yelich
1B Braun
RF Garcia
3B Gyorko
C Pina
SS Urias
P


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 7:38 PM Post
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For opening day assuming they’re facing Hendricks or Darvish I would like to see something along the lines of the following...

1) Cain (R) - CF
2) Yelich (L) - LF
3) Narvaez (L) - C
4) Hiura (R) - 2B
5) Smoak (S) - 1B
6) Garcia (R) - RF
7) Sogard (L) - SS
8) Woodruff (L) - P
9) Holt (L) - 3B

There are a lot of variations of the above lineup I could be happy with. I originally figured Narvaez would hit 6th or lower in the Brewers lineups versus RHPs, but his career .361 OBP makes him a good candidate to hit just ahead of the power bats of Hiura, Smoak, and Garcia.


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 9:08 PM Post
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Eye Black said:
For opening day assuming they’re facing Hendricks or Darvish I would like to see something along the lines of the following...

1) Cain (R) - CF
2) Yelich (L) - LF
3) Narvaez (L) - C
4) Hiura (R) - 2B
5) Smoak (S) - 1B
6) Garcia (R) - RF
7) Sogard (L) - SS
8) Woodruff (L) - P
9) Holt (L) - 3B

There are a lot of variations of the above lineup I could be happy with. I originally figured Narvaez would hit 6th or lower in the Brewers lineups versus RHPs, but his career .361 OBP makes him a good candidate to hit just ahead of the power bats of Hiura, Smoak, and Garcia.


I just can't imagine they don't have Braun starting on opening day


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 10:10 PM Post
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MVP2110 said:
I just can't imagine they don't have Braun starting on opening day

I wasn’t attempting to predict the actual opening day lineup, just stating what I would prefer to see. That being said, you could simply replace Garcia with Braun and I wouldn’t object.


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Posted: February 21, 2020, 11:37 PM Post
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Im not a fan of these pitcher 8th lineups. Remember the rule change that a RP has to face 3 batters. Keep it as late in order as possible.
Id guess CC keeps a majority R/L batter mix. Yelich 2 Hiura 3rd. Cain leadoff when platoon favor. After that its an interchangeable 4-7. SS 8th.


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Posted: February 22, 2020, 8:50 AM Post
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turborickey said:
bdpecore said:
I’m not saying Keston will be getting scheduled days off but if there is a double header I could see him sitting out the game if Anderson is pitching. Again not that it will be every 5th game, but just something Counsell will have to consider when figuring out lineups.


ok, doubleheaders? how many of those will we play in 2020?

It seems like you are backtracking a bit here...

I’m not backtracking just clarifying my original point since I it was fairly broad. And doubleheader was more of an example than the end all be all. Doubleheaders, night/afternoon games, longer road trips, etc... Basically anytime when the turnaround is minimal and players might benefit from a little time off. I believe Keston will be our second best offensive producer in 2020 so I’m not looking to bench him because he’s a poor defender.


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Posted: February 24, 2020, 11:09 AM Post
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bdpecore said:
turborickey said:
bdpecore said:
I’m not saying Keston will be getting scheduled days off but if there is a double header I could see him sitting out the game if Anderson is pitching. Again not that it will be every 5th game, but just something Counsell will have to consider when figuring out lineups.


ok, doubleheaders? how many of those will we play in 2020?

It seems like you are backtracking a bit here...

I’m not backtracking just clarifying my original point since I it was fairly broad. And doubleheader was more of an example than the end all be all. Doubleheaders, night/afternoon games, longer road trips, etc... Basically anytime when the turnaround is minimal and players might benefit from a little time off. I believe Keston will be our second best offensive producer in 2020 so I’m not looking to bench him because he’s a poor defender.


The bat will play. It just might not always play nine innings if we have a lead late in games.

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Posted: February 24, 2020, 11:39 AM Post
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I expect a crazy amount of double switches this year. That extra roster spot is going to make it tough on people that do scorecards.


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Posted: February 24, 2020, 3:49 PM Post
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Holt started at shortstop today...

Hmmm.... let me try something here...

GOT IT!

ss: Holt
cf: Cain
lf: Yelich
2b: Hiura
c: Narvaez
3b: Braun
1b: Smoak
rf: Garcia

No offensive holes in the Brewers lineup.


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Posted: February 24, 2020, 4:01 PM Post
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clancyphile said:
Holt started at shortstop today...

Hmmm.... let me try something here...

GOT IT!

ss: Holt
cf: Cain
lf: Yelich
2b: Hiura
c: Narvaez
3b: Braun
1b: Smoak
rf: Garcia

No offensive holes in the Brewers lineup.


I always wonder if you simply forget to put stuff like this in blue...


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Posted: February 24, 2020, 4:04 PM Post
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KeithStone53151 said:
clancyphile said:
Holt started at shortstop today...

Hmmm.... let me try something here...

GOT IT!

ss: Holt
cf: Cain
lf: Yelich
2b: Hiura
c: Narvaez
3b: Braun
1b: Smoak
rf: Garcia

No offensive holes in the Brewers lineup.


I always wonder if you simply forget to put stuff like this in blue...


Hmmm...

Maybe 10% sarcasm...

Honestly, though... maybe this would work better:

ss: Holt
2b: Hiura
lf: Yelich
rf: Garcia
c: Narvaez
1b: Smoak
3b: Braun
cf: Cain

That's maybe 5%... not enough for the blue. Blue would require at least 50% sarcasm.

This... as a bat-first lineup... could work.


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Posted: February 24, 2020, 4:15 PM Post
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Well it's 100% not going to happen.

It's about as relevant as saying, Erceg and Arica are so hot right now. How can you consider taking them out of the lineup!


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Posted: February 24, 2020, 4:16 PM Post
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Clancy, I love that you stick to your convictions, but by now even you have to know that Braun is never going to play 3B at the MLB level again.


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Posted: February 24, 2020, 4:22 PM Post
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So in other words, the Brewers are gambling that a 3B platoon of Brockstar/Jerkstore will be the key to their 2020 season.

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