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Urias Wrist - Update: Had surgery 1/28 for hamate bone fracture, out 6-8 weeks

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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:41 AM Post
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So nobody wants to think "Hey, he stopped playing when it didn't feel good and the Brewers proactively got him stateside so he could be evaluated well before camp starts to make sure there's nothing serious going on with his wrist"?? The injury didn't appear to occur with a slide into a base or hit by pitch that typically causes wrist fractures or potential serious ligament damage requiring surgery - for all we know it's soreness towards the end of winter ball.

Cause for some concern - sure...but my goodness people have to calm down.


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 11:03 AM Post
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I mean, why do you have to be an optimist to think we'll win the division when ZIPS projects exactly that? And we've beaten our ZIPS projections each of the last three seasons?


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 11:15 AM Post
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The kool-aid is flowing...

I get it, we have people who hate the thought of talking bad about the team, so much so, that anyone suggesting this team has not taken a step ahead, in fact has moved in reverse, is scolded, scorned, and made to feel like their opinions aren't valid.


Is it not possible that posters have made a rational analysis of the changes and decided that they are on balance still have a good chance to be a contending team? (I have.)

And if you feel bad about being scolded, scorned, or made to feel like your opinion isn't valid (which I agree should not happen), then why turn around and accuse people of drinking Kool aid?

It's as yet unproven; we know what we've lost and what acquisitions have been made, but how the team will perform on the field is in the future and there's big error bars on anyone's projections, whether they admit to it or not. People can and should have a range of opinions, some backed by stats, some by hunches, some just by a desire to be optimistic or pessimistic or contrarian or whatever. People disagree, and that's ok.


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 1:41 PM Post
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MLB's system benefits the likes of Pirates owner Bob Nutting, who routinely opts out of spending money for on-field talent, instead raking in cash from revenue sharing each and every offseason. The less Nutting and others like him spend on their teams, the more year-over-year earnings they can report for themselves and shareholders. In 2018, for example, every team received $118 million, per baseball-reference. That number likely increased in 2019, and will do the same in 2020 as the value for television contracts goes up.

This is from an article on MSN Sports. In 2018 every team received $118 million? Really? How do we have to cut payroll?


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 6:14 PM Post
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any word on how Urias wrist is


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 7:47 PM Post
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any word on how Urias wrist is

Well he had surgery apparently (Link).

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Posted: January 28, 2020, 7:50 PM Post
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Well, that's not ideal. Hopefully it will solve the issue, though, so it isn't something that lingers and affects him long-term.

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Posted: January 28, 2020, 7:54 PM Post
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Was this news reported before the fact? I didn't see anything that indicated surgery was required and imminent.

Strange that we learn about this from a player's own Instagram account.


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 7:55 PM Post
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Pretty much a given that would be the outcome. The swift action to get it done probably means the recovery time is reasonable. At least it happened now. Next month+ was already garbage time anyway.


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:00 PM Post
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Looks like 6-8 weeks on the shelf. Hamate bone though so might linger.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:04 PM Post
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This is a bummer for sure, but it doesn't necessarily mean that Arcia is a roster lock, though. Sogard, Gyorko, Rodriguez and Mathias can all play SS.

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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:10 PM Post
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homer said:
Looks like 6-8 weeks on the shelf. Hamate bone though so might linger.


Per McCalvy, team expects full recovery, no lingering effects.
https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/ ... 2126255105

IIRC, didn't Brad Nelson have a fractured hamate?


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:15 PM Post
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I'm going to need some talking off a ledge if this ends up lingering, giving Arcia significant playing time. I can't handle any more Arcia AB's mentally


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:17 PM Post
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So he will probably miss all of spring. Maybe goes to extended spring training to ramp up and probably a rehab assignment with a minor league affiliate. Hopefully he will be big league ready by May and the Brewers can get by with the rest of their infield contingent.


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:20 PM Post
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Eugenio Suarez is in a similar boat, but with shoulder surgery. This is probably good news overall. You figure Urias should be good to go by mid-to-late April at the latest, and you can cover a month with current roster options without too much trouble. Who knows? Maybe we get 2018 postseason Arcia because he feels the pressure? One can hope.

The weirdness of the release of this news, though, is annoying. Those weeks between his removal from winter league and his surgery seem like a bigger deal now. Even if it was unavoidable due to bureaucratic reasons, the whole "we'll know more by mid-next week" seems really odd in retrospect. Did they have the evaluation and the surgery the same day?


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:26 PM Post
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clancyphile said:
homer said:
Looks like 6-8 weeks on the shelf. Hamate bone though so might linger.


Per McCalvy, team expects full recovery, no lingering effects.
https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/ ... 2126255105

IIRC, didn't Brad Nelson have a fractured hamate?

Brad Nelson did have that injury back in the day. (Nice to see another Brewerfan veteran remember that name, though wish that Nelson would have turned out to be a star!)

But it seems like there may have been some progress in treating hamate fractures in athletes, primarily going the surgical excision route. Looks like that has more success than past treatment. I found an interesting abstract of a medical journal about that:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6194943/


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:26 PM Post
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This is a bummer for sure, but it doesn't necessarily mean that Arcia is a roster lock, though. Sogard, Gyorko, Rodriguez and Mathias can all play SS.


Gyorko is an awful defender at short, I have no idea who Rodriguez and Mathias are so it can be safely assumed that Arcia is the starter.

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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:30 PM Post
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Two days ago they had a massive team event with thousands of fans, media members, Stearns and Attanasio addressing questions, tons of players on hand...and nobody talked about this??

Did he have this procedure without the team knowing, or did they purposely not mention it when it was something that fans would want to know?


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:33 PM Post
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clancyphile said:
homer said:
Looks like 6-8 weeks on the shelf. Hamate bone though so might linger.


Per McCalvy, team expects full recovery, no lingering effects.
https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/ ... 2126255105


Well not ideal and obviously both wrists are very important to a baseball player, but I guess it’s maybe slightly better that it is the left wrist for a right handed thrower/batter.


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Posted: January 28, 2020, 8:35 PM Post
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JimH5 said:
Two days ago they had a massive team event with thousands of fans, media members, Stearns and Attanasio addressing questions, tons of players on hand...and nobody talked about this??

Did he have this procedure without the team knowing, or did they purposely not mention it when it was something that fans would want to know?


Stearns was asked about it. He said that Urias was going to be evaluated by a specialist this week, but didn't want to speculate on a course of action until the results of that evaluation were known. Apparently the evaluation said surgery, and they got it done quick.

My question is that Urias first reported the discomfort on Jan 6 I believe. I understand if maybe they thought giving it a rest might alleviate the problem, but it is somewhat disappointing that it took this long to diagnose and treat a broken bone.

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