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Offline monty57 Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 12:25 PM Post
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wildcat2237 said:
At this point I am 100% indifferent. A 60 game season does not excite me at all.

My only question:

Could the players refuse to report and file litigation?


The article I read says that the players still have to sign off on the health protocols and the arrival date, but it sounded like they are expecting that to happen.

They can still file a grievance about anything going on if they choose to.
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Offline Jopal78! Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 12:59 PM Post
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monty57 said:
wildcat2237 said:
At this point I am 100% indifferent. A 60 game season does not excite me at all.

My only question:

Could the players refuse to report and file litigation?


The article I read says that the players still have to sign off on the health protocols and the arrival date, but it sounded like they are expecting that to happen.

They can still file a grievance about anything going on if they choose to.


The players already agreed in March that the Commissioner can schedule a season with as few as 50 games. The two questions to the players are the last hurdles before a season actually starts.

If they can report on July 1st. If the answer here is NO I would imagine the owners will start shaving games of the 60 based on when the players can report (Sort of calling the players on their "Tell us when and where bit").

Question 2 deals with health and safety protocols. This is probably is also more of a formality where social distancing protocols and other safety features are put in place. If the players agree to them, and don't adhere by them and players contract Covid, it exculpates the owners from blame in that situation.

A grievance would only be filed over the issue of whether or not the owners made a "good faith effort" in negotiating with the players on the number of games and pay for those games.
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Offline Brew4U Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 1:09 PM Post
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The season will be what people make it to be. Not going to complain that I get to watch Brewers baseball in 2020 even if it’s an odd season.
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Offline Cool Hand Lucroy Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 1:15 PM Post
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This is the hard part. These negotiations were just, ugh. The owners don't even seem to like baseball, and I feel that way about Manfred too.

But I will keep watching because I like the game and still find it about the most amazing sport in the world. So, yeah. They've got me. And I'll watch. And line their pockets. And what are you gonna do?
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Offline AZBrewCrew Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 1:16 PM Post
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I don’t think you’re going to see a ton of big name players playing this season. Great for the minor league guys though
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Offline Ron Robinson's Beard Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 1:25 PM Post
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AZBrewCrew said:
I don’t think you’re going to see a ton of big name players playing this season. Great for the minor league guys though


I disagree. Most of those guys live and breathe baseball. They also understand the value of marketing, and choosing to sit out while your team is playing isn't going to look good to the fans who adore them. I think we will see some guys who may be compromised health-wise, or live closely with someone who does, choose to sit out, but I would bet it is a very small number.
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Offline Brew4U Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 1:26 PM Post
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AZBrewCrew said:
I don’t think you’re going to see a ton of big name players playing this season. Great for the minor league guys though


You think guys like Trout, Yelich, etc... are not going to play?
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Offline MrAllen Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 1:31 PM Post
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Star players tweet "When and where?" -> Players turn down MLB's next proposal -> MLB mandates season schedule -> Star players still just don't show up

That would be amazing, lol (and awful)
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Offline adambr2 Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 2:54 PM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
AZBrewCrew said:
I don’t think you’re going to see a ton of big name players playing this season. Great for the minor league guys though


I disagree. Most of those guys live and breathe baseball. They also understand the value of marketing, and choosing to sit out while your team is playing isn't going to look good to the fans who adore them. I think we will see some guys who may be compromised health-wise, or live closely with someone who does, choose to sit out, but I would bet it is a very small number.


Yeah, these guys are going to play. If there was chirping about big names sitting out the season, you'd be hearing about it by now.

My guess is pretty much everyone reports across the board, including Blake Snell. Maybe you have a few names here and there with an immunocompromised family member who choose to stay home, but I'd be shocked if you have big names staying home.
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Offline KeithStone53151 Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 3:08 PM Post
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if a pretty significant contingent of players were very careful for this shortened season. I'm specifically looking at contract year guys and pitchers. I'm not going to say they'll mail it in, but they'll do their best to mitigate the risk of significant injury in such a short season. Maybe some pitchers only pitch with 90% effort and focus on their mechanics to not overstress anything. You think Betts is going to try for diving catches?
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Offline Ron Robinson's Beard Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 3:13 PM Post
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if a pretty significant contingent of players were very careful for this shortened season. I'm specifically looking at contract year guys and pitchers. I'm not going to say they'll mail it in, but they'll do their best to mitigate the risk of significant injury in such a short season. Maybe some pitchers only pitch with 90% effort and focus on their mechanics to not overstress anything. You think Betts is going to try for diving catches?


These guys didn't become great by letting their foot off the gas. These guys are at the top of a very difficult-to-play game. They only know one way to play. Yeah, Betts is going to dive for balls, because he's been doing it since he was 5. They don't have the time to think about the impact of their actions in the heat of the moment.

Also, (this is going to sound coach-y) when you let up is when you get hurt.
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Offline tmwiese55 Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 3:45 PM Post
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If I was a pitcher who didn't need the money, I think I'd seriously consider sitting the year and not risking injury. Heck, even if I did need the money due to not getting my big payday yet, I'd consider not risking the injury this year. I think it's been agreed that service time moves forward one year regardless, so you're one year closer to FA without risking a major arm injury. Of course easy for me to say, I'm sure they have competitiveness that factors in greatly. Guess I'm just saying I totally get how this might not make sense for pitchers.
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Offline turborickey Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 4:02 PM Post
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Chris Cotillo of MassLive.com reports that MLB will open with 30-man rosters, reduced to 28 players on the 15th day of the season and 26 on the 29th day of the season.

So, nearly half of the shortened campaign will be played with expanded rosters. Cotillo also says that the current plan is for 10-day injured lists for both position players and pitchers (it was supposed to go back to 15 days for pitchers this year) and that the 60-day DL will temporarily become the 45-day disabled list. Teams are expected to submit a provisional 60-man roster before the beginning of spring training that includes their 40-man roster plus anyone else they want eligible for their taxi squad.

Source: Chris Cotillo on Twitter
Jun 23, 2020, 4:10 PM ET

Why not just use the expanded roster all the way through the 60 game season? Why bother changing it at all?
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Online nate82 Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 4:14 PM Post
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Official now MLB starting the season on July 24th.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb- ... r-july-24/
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Offline MVP2110 Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 4:21 PM Post
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I'm excited, I get to see Christian Yelich play baseball!
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Offline OldSchoolSnapper Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 6:02 PM Post
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KeithStone53151 said:
I wouldn't be surprised at all if a pretty significant contingent of players were very careful for this shortened season. I'm specifically looking at contract year guys and pitchers. I'm not going to say they'll mail it in, but they'll do their best to mitigate the risk of significant injury in such a short season. Maybe some pitchers only pitch with 90% effort and focus on their mechanics to not overstress anything. You think Betts is going to try for diving catches?


Pitching is a different animal due to the evolution of an arm over the course of a normal season so something like that wouldn't surprise me. Outfielders diving for balls, yes I expect to see that, because 99% of the players are competitors before businessmen and they got where they are by being better than the best.
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Offline owbc Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 6:38 PM Post
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Offline BradWI Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 7:07 PM Post
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Did I hear correctly that 40 of the 60 games will be division games?
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Online folly412 Re: COVID-19 impact on MLB season
Posted: June 23, 2020, 7:34 PM Post
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All remaining issues have been resolved and Players are reporting to training camps.
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