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Posted: July 10, 2020, 11:01 AM Post

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CheeseheadInQC said:
Has it been confirmed no PTBNL? Otherwise the rule would just mean those guys couldn’t play for the new team this season.

keep following this thread for updates.


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Posted: July 10, 2020, 11:59 AM Post
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I believe current rules dictate a player must be eligible for trade the day it is agreed upon to be a PTBNL. You can’t bend the rules to simply wait until a player is eligible to make it official. I think the origination of that rule was because team(s) we’re making newly drafted guys PTBNL and finalizing it after the season when it was allowable to trade them. So unless they specifically change the rules for the year technically only guys on that 60 man roster could be traded and/or be a PTBNL.

Of course that’s how I recall the rules last I checked. They could change those rules, but I don’t know why they would. Clearly they have their reasons for not wanting those players not on the 60 man roster traded. I would expect a team is stuck trading off that 60 man roster if they want to make something happen.


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Posted: July 10, 2020, 4:20 PM Post
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I'm kind of surprised Payton Henry isn't on the list.


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Posted: July 11, 2020, 9:08 AM Post

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I'm kind of surprised Payton Henry isn't on the list.

we've also talked about the omission of tuffy gosewisch, a catcher with over two years of major league service, who was still in major league camp when the cactus league was suspended.

the brewers have five catchers in their 60-man player pool--four of whom have been working out at miller park to support intrasquad scrimmages and workouts for 41 other players. those four have 40-man roster status. two of them were already optioned in march, so unless the brewers want to carry a third catcher during the 30-man and 28-man roster days, both david freitas and jacob nottingham appear destined to optioned to alternate summer camp in grand chute.

that would leave grand chute with three catchers to support up to 27 other players . . . but consider that clubs are permitted to bring a taxi squad of up to three players with them on roadtrips. if they take three players, one of them must be a catcher (who may serve as a bullpen catcher). thus, grand chute could be down to two catchers during brewers roadtrips--which means no backup catchers available in intrasquad games.

the brewers probably don't have to worry about a 40-man roster spot if their taxi squad catcher is activated to replace a catcher placed on the special covid-19 injured list, but may have to expose that catcher to outright waivers if optional assignment is not desired by the club. (remember, a player is removed from the 40-man roster when placed on the special covid-19 injured list, but has to be added back if activated by the club. thus, in the interest of preserving depth, the taxi squad catcher will likely be a player with 40-man status.)

this will become more interesting if either freitas or nottingham are placed on outright waivers in order to open up a spot for a non-roster invitee (such as logan morrison). if players are able to burn minor league options in 2020 as they normally do with a stay of more than 20 days on optional assignment, both freitas or nottingham could be out of options in 2021, so either could be a candidate to be outrighted. if that player is claimed, the brewers could be down to four catchers in the 60-man pool, and potentially just one at grand chute while the brewers are on the road.

thus, gosewisch or henry could still have a shot at being added to the 60-man player pool at some point.


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Posted: July 11, 2020, 9:43 AM Post
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5 1/2 catchers. Based on an article in a different thread, the Dillard as catcher experiment continues after all. If one of the catchers gets lost to waivers, I really expect Gosewisch to be added. That is one position where having a more experienced guy in that camp could have some benefits.


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Posted: July 16, 2020, 2:02 PM Post

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alternate camp in grand chute is tentatively set to open saturday.

some players in camp at miller park are going to have to be sent to grand chute if they are expected to play intrasquad games, as that alternate roster currently has only 13 players assigned to it.


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Posted: July 17, 2020, 8:20 PM Post
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Adam McCalvy’s predictions for the Opening Day 30-man roster (Article Link):

Catcher
Omar Narváez, Manny Piña

First base/designated hitter
Justin Smoak, Ryan Braun, Logan Morrison

Second base
Keston Hiura, Brock Holt

Shortstop
Orlando Arcia

Third base
Eric Sogard, Jedd Gyorko

Outfield
Christian Yelich, Lorenzo Cain, Avisaíl García, Ben Gamel

Starting pitchers
Brandon Woodruff, Brett Anderson, Adrian Houser, Josh Lindblom, Corbin Burnes

Relievers
Josh Hader, Corey Knebel, David Phelps, Brent Suter, Freddy Peralta, Alex Claudio, Ray Black, Bobby Wahl, Devin Williams, Eric Yardley, Justin Grimm


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Posted: July 18, 2020, 8:19 AM Post
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Seems a little pitcher heavy, but I guess they will probably add Urias pretty early and I don't think they will drop a position player to do it.


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Posted: July 24, 2020, 6:27 AM Post

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this article addresses quite a bit regarding the club player pool (cpp)--which is the official name of the 60-man roster we've been referring to.

it does clarify a misconception that i've stated in the roster construction rules thread regarding the "outbreak clause", but it also reveals how a player sidelined by a non-covid injury (and not on the 45-day injured list) still counts against the 60 player limit in the cpp. bottom line, if a player lacking 40-man roster status suffers a lasting injury, don't be surprised if the team releases that player entirely from the organization.


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Posted: July 27, 2020, 6:43 PM Post

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the club player pool is at 55 players.

mike morin is in limbo as he's been designated for assignment. angel perdomo and luis urias are still on the covid-19 injured list and do not count against the 60-man limit for the cpp.

it'd be interesting to hear david stearns' rationale for wanting to start the season with a less-than-capacity club player pool.


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Posted: July 28, 2020, 7:32 AM Post
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the club player pool is at 55 players.

mike morin is in limbo as he's been designated for assignment. angel perdomo and luis urias are still on the covid-19 injured list and do not count against the 60-man limit for the cpp.

it'd be interesting to hear david stearns' rationale for wanting to start the season with a less-than-capacity club player pool.


I may be wrong, but isn't there some rule that if you're DFA'd as a result of someone (in this case, Eric Lauer) coming off the COVID IL, you don't pass through waivers?

So I think Morin will have to go to Appleton as long as he doesn't have the right to elect free agency (don't know much about Morin's history or if he's been DFA'd before).


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Posted: July 28, 2020, 7:46 AM Post
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What is the rationale for wanting your 60-man roster full? Seems like all the negative impacts come from removing a player from the 60 man roster and make it easy to add people to the 60 man roster. If he wanted to, he could fill the last 5 spots in a snap by calling players up from Appleton.

The 40-man roster is still the critical one since you can't play at the MLB level without being on it. That extra 20 people are really only around to practice and be ready to play. That can be done at Milwaukee or Appleton.


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Posted: July 28, 2020, 7:57 AM Post
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Roster flexibility, seems straight forward. We don’t need anywhere near 60 players barring a major outbreak...and honestly if we need players that far down the list our season is pretty much toast.

I think a lot of is for trade implications. There is nothing stopping teams from adding a players to the 60 man roster and trading them 5 minutes later. If you fill it the other team can only pick from those players...or you have to dump players just to get the ones they want on your 60 man roster. With open spots it would be easy to just add who a team might want.

What we might not see as much of is lopsided trades that are say 4-1 deals. The acquiring team would only shed one roster spot, but would need 4 spots open. Could still happen, just wouldn’t be as easy to swing.


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Posted: July 28, 2020, 8:19 AM Post

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I may be wrong, but isn't there some rule that if you're DFA'd as a result of someone (in this case, Eric Lauer) coming off the COVID IL, you don't pass through waivers?

So I think Morin will have to go to Appleton as long as he doesn't have the right to elect free agency (don't know much about Morin's history or if he's been DFA'd before).

no. morin must clear outright or release waivers if he is placed on either. the rule you're referring to only affects replacements at the alternate training site.

morin has been outrighted before, which is different than having been designated for assignment before. the former allows a player to refuse any future outright assignment, the latter does not. designating a player for assignment is merely a step to immediately remove a player from the 40-man roster, and then as permitted, be traded, or placed on outright or release waivers.


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Posted: July 28, 2020, 12:17 PM Post

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djoctagone said:
the club player pool is at 55 players.

mike morin is in limbo as he's been designated for assignment. angel perdomo and luis urias are still on the covid-19 injured list and do not count against the 60-man limit for the cpp.

with the marlins claiming mike morin, the cpp remains at 55 players, with the same two aforementioned players on the covid-19 il.


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Posted: July 28, 2020, 1:50 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
djoctagone said:
the club player pool is at 55 players.

mike morin is in limbo as he's been designated for assignment. angel perdomo and luis urias are still on the covid-19 injured list and do not count against the 60-man limit for the cpp.

with the marlins claiming mike morin, the cpp remains at 55 players, with the same two aforementioned players on the covid-19 il.


Hard not to feel bad for Morin. That's like a one-way trip to purgatory right now.

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Posted: July 28, 2020, 2:26 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
djoctagone said:
the club player pool is at 55 players.

mike morin is in limbo as he's been designated for assignment. angel perdomo and luis urias are still on the covid-19 injured list and do not count against the 60-man limit for the cpp.

with the marlins claiming mike morin, the cpp remains at 55 players, with the same two aforementioned players on the covid-19 il.


Hard not to feel bad for Morin. That's like a one-way trip to purgatory right now.


And that would be true even if it weren't for the COVID-19 problems in the Marlin's clubhouse. [wink]


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Posted: July 29, 2020, 11:25 AM Post

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reports that angel perdomo has been working out in grand chute at the alternate training site. he has not been formally activated from the covid-19 injured list, and therefore, still does not count against the 60-man cpp or the 40-man roster.


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Posted: July 29, 2020, 2:18 PM Post
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C Jacob Nottingham has been recalled from the Alternate Training Site. RHP Bobby Wahl has been optioned there.


Sort of a procedural move, as I imagine Nottingham will go back down Friday when Anderson is activated. Justin Grimm lives to fight another day ...

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Justin Grimm lives to fight another day ...


Hopefully he (only) pitches again when the Brewers have a large lead or deficit


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