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Posted: February 16, 2021, 12:21 AM Post
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As for SeaBass’s comment about the opening day murder that happened there, I believe that was the last straw for tailgating there. They are lunatics and lushes.
I hope the dodgers pull a mariners this year. Set a new wins record and then bow right out of the playoffs.


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Posted: February 16, 2021, 9:24 AM Post
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Wasn't there some altercation between a Dodgers fan and a Giants fan that ended up with one of them dead a few years ago? Not a lot of common sense out there. It's just a baseball game. Not worth going to prison over who wears what jersey.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/12/how-giants-fan-bryan-stow-has-turned-his-trauma-into-a-message-for-thousands-of-kids/

Bryan Stow...10 years ago already. To think that someone would do this over a baseball game is absolutely beyond comprehension for me.


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Posted: February 18, 2021, 8:04 PM Post
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Dodgers win total =104.5

Which is a surprise to almost nobody.


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Posted: February 18, 2021, 8:16 PM Post
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The ball into Buehler’s ribs should be thrown by a hard throwing reliever who will never have to bat. So there’d be no way for Buehler to hit him back.

I nominate Topa. Counsell will never go for it so Topa would have to do it on his own. There are pitchers that do that.

I never wish ill l will on anyone because of Karma. But he was obviously not worried about that...


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Posted: February 19, 2021, 8:56 AM Post
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I can't think of one single instance in Counsell's 6 year managerial run where he has ever ordered a beaning, and there have been some very deserving circumstances.

He's just not that kind of manager and it's just not happening.


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Posted: February 19, 2021, 11:27 AM Post
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The Dodgers just officially announced the signing of JT. They waited until the start of ST so they could place Caleb Ferguson on the 60 day DL (TJ surgery last September) as they had no additional spots on their 40 man roster to do so earlier without DFA'ing or releasing someone.


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Posted: February 19, 2021, 1:33 PM Post
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Buehler's tweet was immature and unnecessary, but realistically, he wasn't wrong per se. The idea of Milwaukee getting Turner when LAD was working on bringing him back is somewhat laughable if we're being honest with ourselves.


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Posted: February 19, 2021, 4:41 PM Post
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I give Buehler the benefit of the doubt, I got the sense he was trying to be playful but the tone came out wrong which is why he deleted it. I really don't think he was seriously trying to insult the Brewers or their fans. To him it's real easy to see it as of course Turner wasn't going to leave the Dodgers unless the Dodgers left him first, which just about everybody except the most delusional of Brewers fans knew anyway.


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Posted: February 19, 2021, 8:27 PM Post
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Who cares? If the Brewers had the better offer, Turner would be a Brewer. Not many professional players sign contracts because of the team’s legacy or prestige. Buehler knows that, or should. Money talks and at the end of the day Turner got more money from LA than Milwaukee would’ve paid him


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Posted: February 19, 2021, 9:26 PM Post
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I can't think of one single instance in Counsell's 6 year managerial run where he has ever ordered a beaning, and there have been some very deserving circumstances.

He's just not that kind of manager and it's just not happening.

The best revenge is winning. I hope the Brewers take plenty of revenge on the Dodgers, especially in the playoffs.


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Posted: February 19, 2021, 10:26 PM Post
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Who cares? If the Brewers had the better offer, Turner would be a Brewer. Not many professional players sign contracts because of the team’s legacy or prestige. Buehler knows that, or should. Money talks and at the end of the day Turner got more money from LA than Milwaukee would’ve paid him


It's really not this simple, because the Brewers did make a very similar offer to the Dodgers. In fact, when you consider California's very high taxation on professional athletes, I find it very likely that the Brewers offer would have resulted in a higher net salary than what he's getting. Just not higher enough. A player like Turner who has made plenty of money in his career and is comfortable somewhere isn't likely to spurn $17M, hypothetically speaking, just for an extra $1M a year to go to Milwaukee. Money does matter, but in these instances the difference needs to be more than modest to matter.


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Posted: February 23, 2021, 4:38 PM Post
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https://twitter.com/todd_rosiak/status/ ... 91744?s=21


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Posted: February 24, 2021, 8:24 AM Post
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https://twitter.com/todd_rosiak/status/1364341900933791744?s=21


Why would he be talking with Mark Kotsay? He's been gone from the Brewers for years.


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Posted: February 24, 2021, 9:33 AM Post
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https://twitter.com/todd_rosiak/status/1364341900933791744?s=21


Why would he be talking with Mark Kotsay? He's been gone from the Brewers for years.[/quote]


Rumor has it he turned down the Brewers because he was afraid he'd be put in CF in a pivotal post season game!


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Posted: February 24, 2021, 10:02 AM Post
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I imagine Kotsay could still speak to the city, stadium, the culture, and even Counsell to an extent.


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Posted: February 24, 2021, 10:05 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Jopal78! said:
Who cares? If the Brewers had the better offer, Turner would be a Brewer. Not many professional players sign contracts because of the team’s legacy or prestige. Buehler knows that, or should. Money talks and at the end of the day Turner got more money from LA than Milwaukee would’ve paid him


It's really not this simple, because the Brewers did make a very similar offer to the Dodgers. In fact, when you consider California's very high taxation on professional athletes, I find it very likely that the Brewers offer would have resulted in a higher net salary than what he's getting. Just not higher enough. A player like Turner who has made plenty of money in his career and is comfortable somewhere isn't likely to spurn $17M, hypothetically speaking, just for an extra $1M a year to go to Milwaukee. Money does matter, but in these instances the difference needs to be more than modest to matter.


If the Brewers are arguing as a selling point that rates of taxation are lower in Wisconsin than California, it means they likely didn't offer the most money. Plus, professional athletes pay income tax in ALL the states where they play/"work" further diluting any significant tax advantages.

There was a quote from Aramis Ramirez when he signed with the Brewers to the effect, "I play baseball games for money, they offered me the most money, so here I am". I'm sure lifestyle, quality of the team, etc. are factors considered by free agents in deciding where to play. However, at the end of the day they hardly ever trump dollars.


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Posted: February 24, 2021, 11:40 AM Post
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markedman5 said:
https://twitter.com/todd_rosiak/status/1364341900933791744?s=21


Why would he be talking with Mark Kotsay? He's been gone from the Brewers for years.



See via wiki Kotsay became a 3rd base coach among assistant at San Diego and Oakland. So they'd have met on field at 3b and likely became friendly.


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Posted: February 24, 2021, 1:01 PM Post
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yoshii8 said:
Rumor has it he turned down the Brewers because he was afraid he'd be put in CF in a pivotal post season game!


Might be concerned he would get benched in a pivotal playoff game to have a nobody take his cleanup spot.


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