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Posted: July 15, 2007, 2:54 AM Post
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I defiantely told the meatheads in front of me on Friday to shut it when they were booing Cappy, and I was doing the same thing at every game when Jenks was cold last year. Those are bad fans.

I was right there booing Capuano....and I don't think I suck or am a bad Brewer fan. I don't like when our pitchers walk two batters in a row, especially right away we take the lead. It doesn't mean I don't like Cappy as a person or as a Brewer, I was just unhappy with his performance at the moment.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 2:56 AM Post
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I don't like assigning different 'levels' of fandom, either. As an example, we frequently see the term 'casual' fan assigned to people who aren't familiar with sabermetric stats.

I'd submit that the 90 year old woman who listens to Bob Uecker every day is not a 'casual' fan, even though she's likely not into sabermetrics. Heck, she's probably even very familiar with Gorman Thomas. ;)

dannyjnoonan, if you feel 'colorful' language coming on when you post, it's your responsibility to preview your message to make sure everything flies with the cuss filter. Posts with "@#%$" violate site guidelines. Note that 'damn' was fine. The 'other' word you used wasn't.

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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:12 AM Post
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I wouldn't worry too much about a couple that doesn't know who Gorman is, I'm just happy they stopped to ask.

Who knows, maybe they're the type who've always been talking Packers by June 1...we need those people wearing blue and gold. Go ahead and tell them who Gorman is, maybe a year from now they'll be season ticket holders.

As for the booing at MP, I didn't have a problem with the fans getting on Cappy. Someone letting off steam when things aren't going well is ok with me, as long as they don't get into name-calling, etc. I sat behind two guys who wouldn't get off Jenkins one day, they just would not shut up. Late in the game, he hit one out, even then they were yelling "Lucky swing."

I have no time for that excessive stuff, and the losers in the bleachers who think they're funny....are not.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:12 AM Post
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I don't like assigning different 'levels' of fandom, either. As an example, we frequently see the term 'casual' fan assigned to people who aren't familiar with sabermetric stats.
I'd submit that the 90 year old woman who listens to Bob Uecker every day is not a 'casual' fan, even though she's likely not into sabermetrics. Heck, she's probably even very familiar with Gorman Thomas.
Thats what I'm saying.. the 90 year old woman who has listened to Ueck for decades is more of a fan than any of us. She's got that tenure. Sabermetrics is just another way to analyze a game, it's a tool... some people act like it's a religion and it drives me nuts.

In my opinion, the greatest fan in the world doesn't need to be the most knowledgable... they just gotta have the love for the game.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:15 AM Post
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I guess I never understood editing language for stuff like that. They're just words, right? And sometimes they're the right words. But whatever, I'll make sure to edit better next time. But I've seen far worse words than "s--t" on here, "Zambrano" for example.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:21 AM Post
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Hey now, DJN, there's no need to start dropping Z-bombs. ;)


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:35 AM Post
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The only ones I have a huge problem with are the dorks who now wear a bunch of Brewers apparel and will talk about how they're die-hard fans but then you talk about players from the 90's and early 00's and they're clueless. Don't tall me you're a huge lifetime fan when you don't remember Jeff D'Amico. Just say you've finally gotten around to appreciating the Crew and I'll congratulate you and tell you it's great that you've finally come to your senses.

When I was an undergrad, I was pretty much "the guy in the Brewers hat" at most places I went to in Eau Claire. People at bars always made comments about it. Now, it'd be more descriptive to say "the guy who isn't wearing a Brewers hat". There's nothing wrong with that, other than when those people claim to not be recent converts.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:58 AM Post
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As it's 'directly' circumventing the cuss filter, there's an issue with "s--t", too. The only circumventing Brewerfan allows is when a word contains "apple.t" (as in "Apple.ton); that's an ezBoard bug.

Let me suggest re-reading the Three Strikes sticky at the top of this forum.

I do agree that Zambrano is not a nice word.

That’s the only thing Chicago’s good for: to tell people where Wisconsin is.
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Posted: July 15, 2007, 4:02 AM Post
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mothership, I think I actually do better with 80s players than 90s players. We had quite a crowd coming through during the 90s.

I remember D'Amico for more than just his injuries and subsequent quest for the ERA title. On day of the final game of the 1999 season, he single-handedly moved a line of autograph seekers out of the rain?something the ushers should have done in the first place.

That’s the only thing Chicago’s good for: to tell people where Wisconsin is.
-- Sigmund Snopek


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 5:01 AM Post
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I don't mind anyone that doesn't know who the ex-brewers are.

Who cares.

But like "And That" said, I hate the "you suck" and the booing of our own players. Especially the players that have done so much for us in the past.

It's just a classless act.

I can kind of understand the booing of Carlos Lee but even that frustrates me quite a bit.

All I know is quite a few of my relatives that never really cared about the brewers before are now watching alot of games. That is good for the Brewers.

I could care less if they don't know who Gorman Thomas is.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 5:37 AM Post
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I don't mind anyone that doesn't know who the ex-brewers are.

I generally agree, as long as they're not claiming/championing themselves to be 'life-long Brewer fans,' as mentioned earlier. If you're a long time Brewer fan and you have no clue who Ted Higuera or Pat Listach or Gorman Thomas is, that's crap.

The problem I have are the people who have no clue who the current Brewers are, while decked out in their Brewer regalia. As someone else mentioned in another thread, the people who wonder if Victor Santos is still on the team, and wonder since when has Richie Sexson not played in Milwaukee.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 9:11 AM Post
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I say who cares about any of that stuff. They paid for the shirt and the merchandise. At least there is interest. Hopefully they are also buying tickets and going to games.

I guess that I have not come accross these people that much. Most people that I talk to with Brewers Merchandise on, know quite a bit about the team. If they don't. I guess their wouldn't be that long of a conversation.

As long as they are not being obnoxious at games, I have no beef with them.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:05 PM Post
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I don't care if they don't know who Gorman or anyone is. They could have moved to Milwaukee 10 years ago and not have heard about him. Not a big deal.

The key is to make them fans now - and hopefully, in 20 years, they'll still be fans.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:26 PM Post
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I'm reminded of those lifelong Bulls fans of the 90's who couldn't stand that guy who coaches the Jazz. Where'd they go?


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 3:36 PM Post
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I didn't know much of the '82 team because I wasn't born yet and don't know many Brewers from '89 to the turn of the century either because I didn't watch the Brewers or my lousy memory skills have gotten me. I do know however, that fans of all types know something about their team. Even bringing up people like Jeff D' Amico or Victor Santos means that they pay attention a little bit. As for the boo birds, I did that when Aquino gave up the GS to Biggio, so I see what fans do when it comes to performance standards, otherwise it is unacceptable.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 4:31 PM Post
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I didn't know much about the history of the Brewers when I first became a fan. I started following the team when I was about 7 (1993, I've never followed a winning season), but I've been really interested in the Brewers ever since and I've studied up on them to learn the history. If people are naive about the players of the last decade or even some of the people on the current roster, I get over it.

My girlfriend used to never like baseball. I got her interested in the Brewers and I'm excited that she can now recognize players only by sight or jersey number.

My little sister used to be a Cubs fan from around 1996-2001. She then was kind of disinterested in baseball for whatever reason. Then came her epiphany. Moments of great realization can be sparked by the most random and crazy things. The oddest thing caused my sister to become a Brewers fan. I was watching a game with her in 2002 and I was not a Wes Helms fan at all. Helms was up to bat and my sister was antagonizing me saying, "yeah, he's gonna hit a home run" in a sarcastic voice. In that at-bat, Helms homered. My sister became intrigued with him and started following the Brewers instead of the Cubs. I even went so far as to do away with my life's guideline and actually sought out a Wes Helms autograph at a game in order to keep my sister's interest on the Brewers and away from the Cubs. It's worked very very well and she even will lurk on this sight and has some knowledge of the minor leagues. I'm so proud.

Out of naivety comes understanding.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 5:34 PM Post
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This whole conversation is kind of funny to me and reading the posts, I don't know where I fit in. I followed them closely growing up (mid 80's through mid 90's).

I moved out of state in the mid 90's and totally lost touch, partially because of the strike. I moved back to Milwaukee in 2000 and started going to a few games. Every year, the number of games I went to increased.

I remember D'Amico. I remember thinking Kolb was THE MAN. I love Junior Spivey and I remember the first at bat of Corey Hart (a long foul ball to left, right?)

Anyways, I was aggrivated at first because I was used to sitting where I wanted when I wanted and now I'm crowded out by people who love "Cecil Fielder" But butts in the seats are good. Not everyone can be a die hard.


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Posted: July 15, 2007, 5:50 PM Post
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When I was an undergrad, I was pretty much "the guy in the Brewers hat" at most places I went to in Eau Claire. People at bars always made comments about it. Now, it'd be more descriptive to say "the guy who isn't wearing a Brewers hat". There's nothing wrong with that, other than when those people claim to not be recent converts.

I've been pretty much the same guy as you, living in twins territory i get alot of **** and ive gotten into ALOT of arguments with twins fans over the last 1-2 years here (only been in college 2 years) but everytime i've defended the brewers til' no end like over the winter i said just wait til next year (typical cubs line i know) but ever since we've been doing good i really havent gotten into any arguments ever since, people actually respect the brewers now.


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Posted: July 16, 2007, 1:12 AM Post
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I started following the Brewers in 82 so guess I must have started out as a bandwagoner. I remember asking a lot of stupid questions from the guy who I worked next to who was an avid fan. He was great. Gave me little stories about old Brewers and managers ect. He never got tired of talking Brewers or answering my stupid questions or even acting like he was somehow more of a fan than I was because I was new to it. He was just happy to talk Brewers. I mention this because now any time I meet someone who is a casual fan I try to be informative so they might become Brewer addicts like myself. In a way it's my tribute to the man who got me hooked.

There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.


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Posted: July 16, 2007, 1:31 AM Post
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i get alot of ****
Woah, tommy? there are two posts right in this thread about cuss filter circumvention. It would have paid to read through all the messages before posting.

That’s the only thing Chicago’s good for: to tell people where Wisconsin is.
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