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Posted: June 26, 2007, 2:48 AM Post
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Does anyone find it interesting that we're skipping Bush's start in Chicago??

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/news/p ... p?c_id=mil

"Gallardo will take the mound in place of Dave Bush, with manager Ned Yost skipping his turn with Thursday's off-day."

The Cubs will see Yo, Sheets and Vargas. If we're starting Yo over Bush against the team closest to us in the standings... How can you put Yo and not Bush in the bullpen? I mean you trust Yo against the Cubs more than Bush.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 2:52 AM Post
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To answer your question, which is buried in 3 or 4 other Yo/Bush/Vargas threads..

Bush doesn't pitch well from the stretch.

Yo doesn't have 200+ innings in his arm.

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Posted: June 26, 2007, 2:54 AM Post
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Nothing other than Yost losing his mind. Why skip Bush? He's pitched outstanding in his last two starts and had 7 days rest prior to his last start. Yo pitched outstanding on 5 days rest on Sunday. Why cut him back to 4?

Why Vargas in the biggest series of the year so far?

Unless Bush has some undisclosed ailment, this makes no sense.

I trust Yo. I trust Bush. I don't trust Vargas and sometimes I don't trust Ned.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 2:56 AM Post
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I agree with that. But why skip Bush again? He threw a gem on Saturday night. Maybe Yost will throw Yo, Sheets and Bush against the Cubs instead of Yo, Sheets, Vargas? Do we know who will start Sunday?


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 2:58 AM Post
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Yo doesn't have 200+ innings in his arm.


You guys are a lot smarter than I on some of this stuff. Is he not a 200 inning guy due to his age or is it something else? I imagine that would be something that might come with age, would that be a correct assumption.

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Posted: June 26, 2007, 3:01 AM Post
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[ You guys are a lot smarter than I on some of this stuff. Is he not a 200 inning guy due to his age or is it something else? I imagine that would be something that might come with age, would that be a correct assumption. ]

The general consensus is that it's in bad taste to increase pitchers' innings count by more than 25 per year.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 3:05 AM Post
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It is probably just Ned over thinking. Capuano is expected to be ready to go a week from Thursday. Which would be right when Yo's next scheduled spot would come up if he starts Saturday. Why Vargas over Bush? Who knows.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 3:11 AM Post
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There's gotta be something here we're not privy to. It's not like Bush has bad career numbers at Wrigley or something.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 3:22 AM Post
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Bush's ERA over the last 5 starts is a full run lower than Vargas's over his last 5 (3.23 ERA vs. 4.24 ERA). Maybe Yost wants to play the "cold hand"?

As Brian said, the only thing that makes sense is that Yost knows something that we don't.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 3:25 AM Post
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Bush is gettin' traded!


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 3:27 AM Post
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Nothing other than Yost losing his mind. Why skip Bush? He's pitched outstanding in his last two starts and had 7 days rest prior to his last start. Yo pitched outstanding on 5 days rest on Sunday. Why cut him back to 4?

The only thing that makes sense to me, is that Bush is traded or going to be so soon.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 3:36 AM Post
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He could also be injured. I don't like the thought that he could be getting traded soon, because Melvin doesn't like the idea of trading while a pitcher's value is low. Bush's ERA is over 5 this year, so his value isn't quite Sheetslike.

I want to know if it's just Ned being stupid or if something IS happening, though.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:00 AM Post
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I'll try to give Ned the benefit of the doubt on this one, because it really doesn't make any sense otherwise. The people making these decisions have more information than I do. I hope against all hopes that Bush doesn't get traded. I kind of hope we find out he's nursing some type of minor injury, as that would seem to be one of the only logical explanations here.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:02 AM Post
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The thought crossed my mind that Vargas is the one that may be traded.


Skip Bush, put Vargas out there and hope he raises his value. Showcase him for a trade and when it happens, bring Bush back into the rotation (or have Gallardo out of the pen after his next start and bring Bush back then).

God knows there's enough teams looking for starting pitching and a 6-1 with a 4.09 ERA isn't something those teams will laugh at.

Plus, you figure the next three starts for Vargas would be the Astros, Pirates and Nationals. Three teams that you could imagine would help raise his trade value some (9th, 15th and 16th in the NL in offensive runs) before the all star break.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:02 AM Post
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Could Yost just be trying to be diplomatic about it, since Vargas was skipped last time? That's a pretty silly reason but it's better than none. :)


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:02 AM Post
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[ I don't like the thought that he could be getting traded soon, because Melvin doesn't like the idea of trading while a pitcher's value is low. Bush's ERA is over 5 this year, so his value isn't quite Sheetslike. ]

He's been pitching better of late, and unlike previous years, selling high isn't the biggest concern.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:06 AM Post
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It does seem odd to skip a guy's turn, in these circumstances, after his arguably best start of the season. It has to do wonders for his psyche.

I hope that Ned's near-obsessive lineup fiddling isn't going to bleed over into the rotation now.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:15 AM Post
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I don't think Bush is going anywhere. He's an above average starting pitcher and Melvin owns his rights for 3.5 more years. He'd have to get a pretty decent return to justify making a trade.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:25 AM Post
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The only reason that makes any kind of sense for doing this is what RLuz mentioned, that last time CV was skipped, this time it's Bushie. That being said, I have no idea why this would be, barring of course an injury/roster move. Dissapointing to say the least.


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Posted: June 26, 2007, 4:26 AM Post
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I's quite simple fellas!!

The Brewers want to evaluate Gallardo one more time before Capuano comes back. Vargas cannot be skipped at his turn is today. No other pitcher can pitch today on 4 days rest.

So Bush gets skipped once to allow a quicker evaluation of Yo. It also allows a little less wear and tear on Bush for one start.


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