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Posted: June 12, 2018, 7:47 AM Post
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And That said:
JosephC said:
If this is a CBA issue, then wouldn't the responsibility actually fall on the players and their representation to negotiate better conditions for the minor league players?

Most minor league players are not represented by the MLBPA. It's not in the MLBPA's interests to cash in bargaining power on players it doesn't represent.


Which is the problem, MiLB players end up stuck in the middle with no one that really cares about them. It's not a priority to either side, so every CBA they fight over the enormous pieces of the multi-billion dollar pie and then throw crumbs at the MiLB players.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 7:58 AM Post

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orlando arcia is taking some time off for the birth of his twins. tyler saladino is injured and can't be recalled to play. mike moustakas still can't grip a bat. keston hirua is still on the injured list and not ready to return.

will the brewers free nate orf? .272 / .399 / .410 with san antonio this year, and he has big league experience (albeit limited).


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 8:27 AM Post
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djoctagone said:
orlando arcia is taking some time off for the birth of his twins. tyler saladino is injured and can't be recalled to play. mike moustakas still can't grip a bat. keston hirua is still on the injured list and not ready to return.

will the brewers free nate orf? .272 / .399 / .410 with san antonio this year, and he has big league experience (albeit limited).


Honestly, the only options really are Orf, Jake Hager, or stealing someone like Hinojosa or Aviles from the AA team.

or ...

Craig Counsell, player-manager!


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 9:14 AM Post
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I guess, at this point just activate Saladino and have him go to the 60 day IL and put Orf on the 40 man. Orf is then first to get DFA after the season but gets MLB pay for a few weeks and maybe another playoff share if he is lucky. It is not worth losing somebody on the 40 man for Orf though.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 9:24 AM Post

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I guess, at this point just activate Saladino and have him go to the 60 day IL and put Orf on the 40 man.

considering that saladino is out of options for 2020, the club is more likely to dfa saladino than recall him and pay him big league money to sit on the 60-day injured list.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 1:28 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
djoctagone said:
orlando arcia is taking some time off for the birth of his twins. tyler saladino is injured and can't be recalled to play. mike moustakas still can't grip a bat. keston hirua is still on the injured list and not ready to return.

will the brewers free nate orf? .272 / .399 / .410 with san antonio this year, and he has big league experience (albeit limited).


Honestly, the only options really are Orf, Jake Hager, or stealing someone like Hinojosa or Aviles from the AA team.

or ...

Craig Counsell, player-manager!


Options are Perez and worst case scenario Spangenberg. Not Orf or any of those other guys.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 1:38 PM Post
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FVBrewerFan said:
Joey Meyer Bombs said:
djoctagone said:
orlando arcia is taking some time off for the birth of his twins. tyler saladino is injured and can't be recalled to play. mike moustakas still can't grip a bat. keston hirua is still on the injured list and not ready to return.

will the brewers free nate orf? .272 / .399 / .410 with san antonio this year, and he has big league experience (albeit limited).


Honestly, the only options really are Orf, Jake Hager, or stealing someone like Hinojosa or Aviles from the AA team.

or ...

Craig Counsell, player-manager!


Options are Perez and worst case scenario Spangenberg. Not Orf or any of those other guys.


Not when the question is "Who can they pull up from the minors for middle infield coverage while Arcia is on Paternity Leave?" I thought that was the implied question. There was no way dj was advocating bring up Orf and starting him at SS.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 1:54 PM Post
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I don't read it that way, but fair enough. He mentioned Moose, Saladino, etc. not being available, how about Orf? Question wasn't who to bring up from the minors, sounds like who can play ss with Arcia out. Just sayin'.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 2:02 PM Post
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I don't read it that way, but fair enough. He mentioned Moose, Saladino, etc. not being available, how about Orf? Question wasn't who to bring up from the minors, sounds like who can play ss with Arcia out. Just sayin'.


Moose and Hiura wouldn't be playing SS unless it was an absolute emergency, though. I would think finding a 40-man spot for one of those minors guys would be the preference over giving those guys any time at SS. They probably just need a body to cover middle infield innings until Arcia comes back against the Cardinals. Or perhaps they just tough it out with the guys they have.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 2:32 PM Post
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Yeah I don't think anybody was advocating Orf at SS. Just right now there is pretty much no infield depth if Moose, Hiura and Arcia are all gone. Shaw/Spangenberg/Perez have to start and hope nobody gets hurt or ejected. If one of those happens then may grant the wish of some and finally see Braun in the infield again. The Brewers probably should bring in an infielder even if the player is from outside and wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 2:52 PM Post

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it was reported that orlando arcia would be placed on the paternity list. with september roster expansion, the only reason to place him on the paternity list would be to recall a player who has yet to meet the 10-day requisite stay on optional assignment. devin williams was optioned 31 august, so he could be recalled a day early.

but yes, the brewers currently have no depth at third, short and second beyond three healthy starters at those positions. that's why i'm advocating for selecting the contract of nate orf.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 3:37 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
it was reported that orlando arcia would be placed on the paternity list. with september roster expansion, the only reason to place him on the paternity list would be to recall a player who has yet to meet the 10-day requisite stay on optional assignment. devin williams was optioned 31 august, so he could be recalled a day early.

but yes, the brewers currently have no depth at third, short and second beyond three healthy starters at those positions. that's why i'm advocating for selecting the contract of nate orf.


This has to be done, Orf to the rescue.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 3:56 PM Post
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Orf is brutal. If he is our best option, trading Dubon is starting to have major consequences.


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 4:21 PM Post

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looks like it's yasmani grandal or jacob nottingham for emergency infield duty . . .

i just don't get it. why doesn't the team use every possible advantage at their disposal in a playoff race?


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Posted: September 09, 2019, 9:15 PM Post
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djoctagone said:
looks like it's yasmani grandal or jacob nottingham for emergency infield duty . . .

i just don't get it. why doesn't the team use every possible advantage at their disposal in a playoff race?


Because for a couple days Perez and Spangenberg are better options than Nate Orf.


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