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Eligible for the Rule 5 Draft - Fall 2019

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Posted: June 27, 2019, 6:28 PM Post
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Among these players are those the Brewers will need to add to the 40-man roster to protect them from being taken by another organization in the Rule 5 Draft at the Winter Meetings.

Alphabetical within current level.

SAN ANTONIO:

RHP Johan Belisario
RHP Zack Brown
RHP Bubba Derby
3B Lucas Erceg
RHP J.P. Feyereisen
RHP Thomas Jankins
OF Corey Ray
RHP Miguel Sanchez
LHP Quintin Torres-Costa
RHP Aaron Wilkerson

BILOXI:

1B/OF Ryan Aguilar
C Alexander Alvarez
LHP Daniel Brown
C Skyler Ewing
RHP Preston Gainey
3B/1B Jake Gatewood
RHP Nate Griep
INF C.J. Hinojosa
OF Cooper Hummel
C Max McDowell
RHP Jon Olczak
LHP Cameron Roegner
OF Joantgel Segovia
IF/OF Weston Wilson

CAROLINA:

RHP Phil Bickford
RHP Chris Dula
INF Julio Garcia
LHP Nathan Kirby
RHP Nelson Hernandez
RHP Alec Kenilvort
INF Trever Morrison
RHP Michael Petersen
C Nathan Rodriguez
RHP Wuilder Rodriguez
RHP Matt Smith
RHP Braden Webb

WISCONSIN:

RHP Anthony Bender
INF Yeison Coca
RHP Carlos Herrera
OF Jesus Lujano

ROCKY MOUNTAIN / MARYVALE:

INF Luis Avila
RHP Jeyner Baez
RHP Jordan Brink
1B/3B Aaron Familia
RHP Karsen Lindell
RHP Carlos Luna
IF Julio Mendez
RHP Joel Pinto
C Jose Sibrian
DH/IF Bryan Torres
RHP Nash Walters


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Posted: June 27, 2019, 8:48 PM Post
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Like last year, several of these guys should be traded, due to lack of ability of the Brewers to keep all of the players they'd want to keep.


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Posted: June 28, 2019, 4:12 AM Post
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Protect: Z Brown, Erceg, Grisham, Ray. If space, maybe add the 1-2 relievers you think most likely to be taken (Or most likely to be useful for the Brewers in 2020) among QTC, D Brown, Sanchez, Griep, Olczak, Ponce.

I don't think the relievers are all that attractive tbh, there are guys like that in many systems. But that's coming from someone who has barely seen them, maybe there's something there in some of them that portends a breakout.

Erceg is perhaps unlikely to be taken given his struggles, but I wouldn't rule out a bad team taking a flyer on him. Can play good defense, and has the kind of tools where one small adjustment can make a real difference. Ray similarly, can think of plenty of bad teams who'd be willing to carry him as a 4th OF while trying to see if he fulfills that potential. Defense and baserunning means he'll still have some value. Brown is struggling this year, but given what he's shown in the past I don't think that scares teams off too badly.

And yeah, I expect we'll see the players on this list feature in any midseason trades the Brewers make. Them, and perhaps even more so Tyrone Taylor and Troy Stokes. With Ray and Grisham needing to be added, Taylor and Stokes should be prime trade bait. Unfortunately, their 2019 seasons have probably hurt their value, but they could still be part of a trade for a reliever.

On a more general note, with the rosters expanding to 26 players next year (With a 13-pitcher maximum), I think we can expect to see more players, especially position players, taken in the rule 5 draft this year compared to years past.


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Posted: July 19, 2019, 11:36 AM Post
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Just bumping this thread for its trade deadline relevancy, thanks to JR Radcliffe of the Journal-Sentinel for linking to us in this article.


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Posted: July 19, 2019, 2:41 PM Post
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Think as of now I'd be interested in protecting Grisham, Ray, Jankins, Brown, Erceg, Sanchez, Griep, and Ponce. Obviously can't have them all. Grisham and Ray are easy. Jankins should be in the mix for the last rotation spot in the spring; at worst you have him in the Wilkerson/Burch role with full team control to see what he can do. Brown and Erceg are tough because there's potential but no results this year to warrant it. The last three are just strong bullpen candidates and would fall under the "nice to haves".


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Posted: July 19, 2019, 2:56 PM Post
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Johan Belisario is someone I’m keeping an eye on the rest of the way. He has done very well so far in AA, but got lit up in his first appearance at AAA. If he can keep pitching well, I wonder if he would be deemed worthy of a 40 man spot after the season.


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Posted: August 01, 2019, 9:58 AM Post

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of note . . . these players are or could be eligible for free agency after the conclusion of the world series, which would remove them from the 40-man roster if they do not sign a major league contract with the brewers:

matt albers
jhoulys chacin
gio gonzalez
yasmani grandal (mutual option for 2020)
jordan lyles
mike moustakas (mutual option for 2020)
drew pomeranz
eric thames (club option for 2020)

these players are on the 60-day injured list and will have to be added back to the 40-man or outrighted to the minors:

corey knebel
brent suter
bobby wahl

as many as eight spots could potentially open up, with up to three spots taken by players activated from the injured list.


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Posted: August 01, 2019, 12:54 PM Post
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of note . . . these players are or could be eligible for free agency after the conclusion of the world series, which would remove them from the 40-man roster if they do not sign a major league contract with the brewers:

matt albers
jhoulys chacin
gio gonzalez
yasmani grandal (mutual option for 2020)
jordan lyles
mike moustakas (mutual option for 2020)
drew pomeranz
eric thames (club option for 2020)

these players are on the 60-day injured list and will have to be added back to the 40-man or outrighted to the minors:

corey knebel
brent suter
bobby wahl

as many as eight spots could potentially open up, with up to three spots taken by players activated from the injured list.


In addition, there are several players without options remaining, who could be kept through ST but could also be DFA'd in the offseason to make room for Rule 5 picks or other new acquisitions:

Taylor Williams
Ray Black
Jake Faria
Jimmy Nelson (options remaining but 5 years service time)
Burch Smith
Tyler Saladino

Plus there's Aaron Wilkerson, who will have an option remaining but is about as DFA'able as it gets.

Yeah, I know, two of these guys haven't even thrown a pitch yet since acquiring them, they'll probably keep them through at least ST even if they're bad this year. But putting them here for the complete list of un-optionable guys in 2020.


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Posted: August 01, 2019, 7:54 PM Post
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I think this one's fairly easy. Taking out Grisham because he's been called up, it's Brown, Sanchez, and Ray. Webb's performance and injury make him a fairly low risk to expose. Erceg's performance makes him a fairly low risk to expose. QTC's injury makes him a low risk to expose.

The one I wonder about is Bickford, and it's not because he's a former first round pick - it's because in a fairly small sample he's struck out 15.3/9 this year. Not sure if he found something or if he's finally healthy, but someone might take a flyer on that in their bullpen.

Man, looking back on Bickford's 2016 reminds me of why I was so excited about the trade, but throwing 120 IP a year after only throwing 22 IP as a 20-year-old... why?


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Posted: August 01, 2019, 10:59 PM Post
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You are missing Devon Williams


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Posted: August 02, 2019, 7:41 AM Post
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*Devin Williams


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Posted: August 02, 2019, 9:14 AM Post
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You are missing Devon Williams

No, he is in the eligible to be minor league free agent list.

http://forum.brewerfan.net/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=38643


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Posted: August 29, 2019, 3:49 PM Post

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has mlb set the limit for pitchers on an active roster in 2020? it seems to be trending towards 13, but i haven't seen anything official. this is important for teams to know because it makes it easier to gauge if teams may be more inclined to stash a position player on their 26-man roster all season.


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Posted: September 03, 2019, 5:10 AM Post

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recent acquisition j.p. feyereisen is eligible for the rule 5 draft this fall if left unprotected.


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Posted: October 22, 2019, 3:32 PM Post

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the deadline to protect players from the 2019 rule draft by adding them to the 40-man roster is 20 november.


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Looks like only Bickford needs protecting. I don't anticipate anyone else being a consideration.


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Posted: October 23, 2019, 9:04 AM Post
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I would try to protect as many Arms as Possible


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Seems like Feyereisen would be a pitcher the Brewers would like to protect since they traded for him just makes me wonder why the Yankees never gave him a shot. Guess I would protect Brown, Bickford and Ray still just for potential. Have a feeling somebody would take Bickford even though he was only in A+. I am interested in how Cooper Hummel performs in 2020 but don't think he gets selected. Could maybe see Hinojosa be the next Perez/Spangenberg but only cheaper with options.


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Posted: October 23, 2019, 7:21 PM Post
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Outlander said:
Seems like Feyereisen would be a pitcher the Brewers would like to protect since they traded for him just makes me wonder why the Yankees never gave him a shot. Guess I would protect Brown, Bickford and Ray still just for potential. Have a feeling somebody would take Bickford even though he was only in A+. I am interested in how Cooper Hummel performs in 2020 but don't think he gets selected. Could maybe see Hinojosa be the next Perez/Spangenberg but only cheaper with options.


Ray has 0.1% chance of getting taken....at most. Even if taken, he’ll likely be offered back. I’d forgotten the new guy—Feyereisen. So two arms to protect, maybe Peterson, Griep, or Brown


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Posted: October 29, 2019, 9:09 AM Post
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Outlander said:
Seems like Feyereisen would be a pitcher the Brewers would like to protect since they traded for him just makes me wonder why the Yankees never gave him a shot. Guess I would protect Brown, Bickford and Ray still just for potential. Have a feeling somebody would take Bickford even though he was only in A+. I am interested in how Cooper Hummel performs in 2020 but don't think he gets selected. Could maybe see Hinojosa be the next Perez/Spangenberg but only cheaper with options.


Ray has 0.1% chance of getting taken....at most. Even if taken, he’ll likely be offered back. I’d forgotten the new guy—Feyereisen. So two arms to protect, maybe Peterson, Griep, or Brown


I can see someone taking Ray to see if they can fix his swing. With the added active player on the roster, and if it has to be a bench player, he can be the pinch runner, spare OF as they work with him. I assume it would be a team that really liked him in the draft that wants to get a close look.

You never know if a team like the Pirates that will pack it in for 2019, would do what San Diego did a few years ago and grab Rule 5 guys.


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