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Offline  Phil Bickford
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Posted: August 11, 2019, 8:40 PM Post
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Will the Brewers add Bickford to their 40-man this offseason? Seems like the type of power arm a team could take a chance on in a Rule 5 draft.


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Posted: August 11, 2019, 9:35 PM Post
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Hard to say. He has done little to nothing for them in all these years. His last few outings have been an improvement. But I think we have more important people to protect. Having said that, I'm not a scout and don't know how he's throwing. A lack of success isn't always an indicator. Plus remember we have 4 players on our 60-day DL that will fill roster spots


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Posted: August 11, 2019, 9:55 PM Post
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No, zero chance.

He was already left unprotected last fall and went undrafted. He's not nearly valuable enough of a prospect anymore to burn a 40 man spot on and likely again is in no risk of being selected in the Rule 5.


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Posted: August 12, 2019, 7:55 AM Post
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Bickford since July 9th:

8 G
14.0 IP
19 K
5 BB
0 R
.114/.220/.114 against

BABIP is .200, and he's been extremely fly ball heavy this year (76% FB this year), but he might have turned a corner? Still a really small sample size, it would be great to hear a scouting report to really believe this change, but if he's gained back the velo he lost around the time we acquired him, he could turn into a nice bullpen guy in the future.

He just turned 24, which is still a bit old for high A but not too old to count him out completely. A 40-man spot seems highly unlikely, but if someone takes a flier on him in the Rule 5, it'd be interesting to see how he performs. I hope he sticks with us and does well at AA next year.


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Posted: August 12, 2019, 10:27 AM Post
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Greenleaf1 said:
Bickford since July 9th:

8 G
14.0 IP
19 K
5 BB
0 R
.114/.220/.114 against

BABIP is .200, and he's been extremely fly ball heavy this year (76% FB this year), but he might have turned a corner? Still a really small sample size, it would be great to hear a scouting report to really believe this change, but if he's gained back the velo he lost around the time we acquired him, he could turn into a nice bullpen guy in the future.

He just turned 24, which is still a bit old for high A but not too old to count him out completely. A 40-man spot seems highly unlikely, but if someone takes a flier on him in the Rule 5, it'd be interesting to see how he performs. I hope he sticks with us and does well at AA next year.


I think the most alarming thing I see is that many of the upside arms we were pegging as potential starters the last handful of years are turning into bullpen arms. On the one hand, it's great that they're at least turning into contributors but given how expensive starting pitching is in the free agent game, those guys not reaching their ceiling really hamstrings us trying to compete with big market squads.


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Posted: August 12, 2019, 12:27 PM Post
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TigerUppercut said:
Greenleaf1 said:
Bickford since July 9th:

8 G
14.0 IP
19 K
5 BB
0 R
.114/.220/.114 against

BABIP is .200, and he's been extremely fly ball heavy this year (76% FB this year), but he might have turned a corner? Still a really small sample size, it would be great to hear a scouting report to really believe this change, but if he's gained back the velo he lost around the time we acquired him, he could turn into a nice bullpen guy in the future.

He just turned 24, which is still a bit old for high A but not too old to count him out completely. A 40-man spot seems highly unlikely, but if someone takes a flier on him in the Rule 5, it'd be interesting to see how he performs. I hope he sticks with us and does well at AA next year.


I think the most alarming thing I see is that many of the upside arms we were pegging as potential starters the last handful of years are turning into bullpen arms. On the one hand, it's great that they're at least turning into contributors but given how expensive starting pitching is in the free agent game, those guys not reaching their ceiling really hamstrings us trying to compete with big market squads.

I sort of agree, but I also think that’s pretty common honestly. Woodruff obviously has turned into the starter we needed, I believe Houser is a capable starter going forward, it’ll be interesting with the Ashby’s, Ethan Small’s, and Max Lazar’s of the system, seeing if they end up being starters long term.


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Posted: August 12, 2019, 1:40 PM Post
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they going to need at least two move forward into the starter role.


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Posted: August 12, 2019, 4:01 PM Post
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Greenleaf1 said:
Bickford since July 9th:

8 G
14.0 IP
19 K
5 BB
0 R
.114/.220/.114 against

BABIP is .200, and he's been extremely fly ball heavy this year (76% FB this year), but he might have turned a corner? Still a really small sample size, it would be great to hear a scouting report to really believe this change, but if he's gained back the velo he lost around the time we acquired him, he could turn into a nice bullpen guy in the future.

He just turned 24, which is still a bit old for high A but not too old to count him out completely. A 40-man spot seems highly unlikely, but if someone takes a flier on him in the Rule 5, it'd be interesting to see how he performs. I hope he sticks with us and does well at AA next year.


You're right that it's highly doubtful Bickford is even on most team's radar. Since 2017 he has pitched a grand total of 72.1 innings and will be 25 and just getting to AA ball. The Brewers won't lose him to rule 5.


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Posted: August 12, 2019, 7:56 PM Post
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DHonks said:
Hard to say. He has done little to nothing for them in all these years. His last few outings have been an improvement. But I think we have more important people to protect. Having said that, I'm not a scout and don't know how he's throwing. A lack of success isn't always an indicator. Plus remember we have 4 players on our 60-day DL that will fill roster spots

I've moved Bickford to the "maybe" column. After the trades and the recent promotions, there are few players that need to be protected. The most obvious is Cory Ray. Then I would say M. Sanchez, Erceg, Z. Brown, Webb are the next ones (Maybe Griep, D.Brown, Perdomo?). We should have plenty of spots open on the 40 man. We have 5 free agents and the 2 mutual options that are unlikely to happen. Plus the dead weight of J.Jackson, H.Perez, Saladino, Taylor, and Wilkerson that could be let go to free up spots. So even with the four 60 man guys we need to protect, there are up to 8 spots still available if we need them. Just a question of which players you would rather protect. If Bickford continues to pitch well for the rest of the season, he could very well be in that mix.


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Posted: August 12, 2019, 9:24 PM Post
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Extra roster spot next year, so we may see a couple more rule 5 picks. Highly doubt Bickford is one of them, but not impossible. He's young enough, has some of that prospect pedigree, and back to pitching well (albeit a very small sample.)


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Posted: August 13, 2019, 10:33 AM Post
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FVBrewerFan said:
Extra roster spot next year, so we may see a couple more rule 5 picks. Highly doubt Bickford is one of them, but not impossible. He's young enough, has some of that prospect pedigree, and back to pitching well (albeit a very small sample.)


I think they put a cap on pitchers on the 26 man roster of 13. Which would be what most NL clubs run anyways.

So maybe AL teams would select a bullpen guy in the rule 5 draft.


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Posted: August 13, 2019, 8:24 PM Post
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I honestly forgot we still had him... [sad]


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Posted: August 14, 2019, 6:30 PM Post
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2.1 IP, 1 H, 5 Ks today. This run has gone from too little, too late to starting to become interesting.


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