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2012-04-21 Rockies (Pomeranz) at Brewers (Estrada), 6:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 9-4]

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Posted: April 21, 2012, 2:08 PM Post
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April 21 | 6:10 P.M.

Rockies (7-6) | Brewers (6-8)
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0-1, 10.38 ERA, 2.54 WHIP
Versus Brewers | Game Log
Pomeranz was consistently behind in counts in his debut, allowing five runs in 4 1/3 innings. He couldn't establish three pitches for strikes, avoiding his changeup as the D-backs laid off his curveball.
0-0, 3.00 ERA, 1.33 WHIP
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Estrada moves from the bullpen to pitch in place of injured lefty Chris Narveson. Estrada made seven Brewers starts last season with a 3.70 ERA in those games. He should be good for about 75 pitches.
Starting Lineups
  1. 2B Marco Scutaro
  2. CF Dexter Fowler
  3. LF Carlos Gonzalez
  4. SS Troy Tulowitzki
  5. 1B Todd Helton
  6. RF Michael Cuddyer
  7. C Wilin Rosario
  8. 3B Chris Nelson
  9. LHP Drew Pomeranz
  1. 2B Rickie Weeks
  2. CF Carlos Gomez
  3. LF Ryan Braun
  4. 3B Aramis Ramirez
  5. RF Corey Hart
  6. SS Alex Gonzalez
  7. 1B Mat Gamel
  8. C Jonathan Lucroy
  9. RHP Marco Estrada


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Posted: April 21, 2012, 2:12 PM Post
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How much longer does Lucroy have to waste away in the 8th spot? He has more home runs and the same amount of RBI as our clean up hitter. Not saying he should bat clean up, but he needs to bat ahead of Gonzalez.

A little nervous about Pomeranz. We all know how the Brewers hit guys with little to no big league experience.


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Posted: April 21, 2012, 2:20 PM Post
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As soon as Lucroy learns to play a different position.

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Posted: April 21, 2012, 3:06 PM Post
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very much looking forward to watching this game. Looking forward to seeing how Estrada looks and especially looking forward to seeing Peralta, and I always enjoy it when Go-Go is in the lineup

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Posted: April 21, 2012, 3:44 PM Post
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Lucroy hits 8th because he knows how to "clear the pitcher." The fact that getting on base hitting 7th or 8th has almost the exact same effect on clearing the pitcher is irrelevant.


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I think somebody here (Rluz?) looked into the whole inexperienced pitcher Brewer FAIL thing a couple of years ago and didn't find the Brewers struggle against young'ns. But, it's more fun to complain about it like it's a Brewers curse. Pomeranz goes 8IP, 11K, 1BB, 2H, 1ER.


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Posted: April 21, 2012, 4:35 PM Post
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Lucroy hits 8th because he knows how to "clear the pitcher." The fact that getting on base hitting 7th or 8th has almost the exact same effect on clearing the pitcher is irrelevant.


At some point how good a guy is at clearing the pitcher is irrelevant. Makes zero sense to have one of your better hitters in the 8th spot.

On another note, I am hoping Wily gets a shot to come out of the pen tonight. Haven't seen him pitch since his days in Appleton with the T-Rats.


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endaround said:
On another note, I am hoping Wily gets a shot to come out of the pen tonight. Haven't seen him pitch since his days in Appleton with the T-Rats.


Pretty sure he'll be pitching. Estrada should be on a fairly strict pitch count and they don't want to go Johnny Bullpen and wear everyone out. Unless Estrada can go 7 innings with 70 pitches, we'll likely see Wily

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I'm not saying this because I think brewers fans complain about lineups too much (I think every fan complains about lineups too much, myself included)....but the next time you're upset about the brewers lineup just remember: NED YOST IS BATTING YUNI LEADOFF TONIGHT.

No matter what roenicke runs out there, it could be worse.


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Posted: April 21, 2012, 5:19 PM Post
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Marco Estrada!!!


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Bobby V's having a tough week in Boston. 14 unanswered for the Yankees now after the Red Sox scored the first 9.


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We all know how the Brewers hit guys with little to no big league experience.

I didn't know that they did hit these guys....

I really think that there is more to this than an old wives tale. In large part, the he Brewers have never hit 'guys they haven't seen' well.


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This strike zone is terrible, that first curveball to Gonzalez was called a ball but was clearly a strike, and the second curveball was called a strike and looked like a ball.


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Wow. These guys are really a joke at the plate right now.


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Wow. These guys are really a joke at the plate right now.

Almost like a lot of the guys are sick or something.


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Can some explain to Bill that a 91-92 mph fastball is typically a good fastball for a starter? And a left handed starter throwing that is actually bringing decent heat?


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Pomeranz goes 8IP, 11K, 1BB, 2H, 1ER.


This is going to happen. [sad]


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Posted: April 21, 2012, 5:59 PM Post
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We all know how the Brewers hit guys with little to no big league experience.

I didn't know that they did hit these guys....

I really think that there is more to this than an old wives tale. In large part, the he Brewers have never hit 'guys they haven't seen' well.


Typo, meant to say can't hit guys with little to no big league experience. Proving to be true so far. Apparently the Rockies suffer from the same thing. Go Marco


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We should just let Braun have a few days off and send him down to St Louis to buy the Cards a few drinks after the game...maybe even share some glasses and silverware.


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Posted: April 21, 2012, 6:03 PM Post
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Can some explain to Bill that a 91-92 mph fastball is typically a good fastball for a starter? And a left handed starter throwing that is actually bringing decent heat?


I think that the FSN guns are a tad fast. At any rate, 91/92 is on the low end of an average MLB fastball. These guys are getting blown away like they are facing a young Nolan Ryan or something. It's one thing to get shut down by a guy with average stuff, it's another thing to not even be able to make contact.


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