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2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT [Brewers get Felized, lose 4-1]

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Offline stoutdude04 Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:24 PM Post
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1st and 2nd... no hits yet.

I'm following along on my phone. Anyone care to explain what happened?
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Offline MoreTrife Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:25 PM Post
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sick of Feliz. As bad as KRod.
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Offline adambr2 Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:26 PM Post
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You are awful, Feliz. Just awful. Wish you were off this team.
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Offline markedman5 Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:26 PM Post
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Feliz sucks
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Offline brwrsfan Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:27 PM Post
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Well that wasn't at all predictable huh??

Frustrating. The error doesn't help. But that's no excuse for walking the leadoff guy and throwing one right down the middle to Betts (who I realize is good, but the Brewers certainly pitched him incredibly poorly in this series). I've had just about enough of Feliz at this point. Let Barnes or Knebel give it a shot.
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Offline Brew4U Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:27 PM Post
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Well that stinks. This game could've and should've been won if we had our A-lineup in there. Hate giving away games.


Last edited by Brew4U on May 11, 2017, 2:29 PM, edited 1 time in total.

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Offline MillerParkSouth Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:28 PM Post
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ugh, this is what happens when you are constantly behind in the count because you can't throw strikes!
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Offline Brew4U Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:28 PM Post
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I don't think Feliz is going anywhere in the closers role. He's been successful in doing that so far. The other situations he's been brought in though he has been putrid.
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Offline brewmann04 Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:29 PM Post
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Feliz has been terrible almost every outing he puts men on base
he should be moved out of the closer role.
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Offline adambr2 Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Feliz might as well just IBB the first batter of every inning he pitches and save the pitches on his arm.

Stearns is awesome but he whiffed with Feliz. And it's not early, he just sucks. A closer that walks guys and gives up bombs is not a recipe for success.
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Offline homer Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:30 PM Post
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So who's next in line? Knebel?
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Offline Brew4U Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:30 PM Post
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brewmann04 said:
Feliz has been terrible almost every outing he puts men on base
he should be moved out of the closer role.


8 of 9 in closing situations tells a different story.
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Offline brewmann04 Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:31 PM Post
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DS should have left him on the FA scrap heap
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Offline homer Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:32 PM Post
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stoutdude04 said:
1st and 2nd... no hits yet.

I'm following along on my phone. Anyone care to explain what happened?


Error. Grounder to Feliz, he threw to 2nd and Arcia dropped it. Good throw.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Offline wildcat2237 Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:32 PM Post
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homer said:
So who's next in line? Knebel?


I am of the opinion that Knebel should be the closer.

I would dfa Feliz and free up the roster spot/40 man spot.
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Offline SomewhereInTime Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:33 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
brewmann04 said:
Feliz has been terrible almost every outing he puts men on base
he should be moved out of the closer role.


8 of 9 in closing situations tells a different story.


This is why we use more advanced methods of evaluation than wins, saves, or holds to determine if a pitcher is getting the job done. Feliz has been absolutely terrible.
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Offline Ennder Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:34 PM Post
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homer said:
stoutdude04 said:
1st and 2nd... no hits yet.

I'm following along on my phone. Anyone care to explain what happened?


Error. Grounder to Feliz, he threw to 2nd and Arcia dropped it. Good throw.



The throw was high but it still should have been caught. Just popped out of Arcia's glove.
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Offline newrivervalley Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:34 PM Post
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How about that bullpen?
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Offline Brew4U Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:35 PM Post
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SomewhereInTime said:
Brew4U said:
brewmann04 said:
Feliz has been terrible almost every outing he puts men on base
he should be moved out of the closer role.


8 of 9 in closing situations tells a different story.


This is why we use more advanced methods of evaluation than wins, saves, or holds to determine if a pitcher is getting the job done. Feliz has been absolutely terrible.


Yes, in none save situations he has been. Never disagreed with that. I'm also not going to write off the guy on 15 innings worth of pitching. If he continues to get three outs before another teams gets the game tied or takes the lead, he most likely won't be moving from the closers role.
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Offline SomewhereInTime Re: 2017-05-11: Red Sox (E. Rodriguez) at Brewers (Nelson) 12:10 PM CDT
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Posted: May 11, 2017, 2:39 PM Post
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But by using advanced stats we can clearly tell he's been quite lucky to even be 8 out of 9 in save chances. You can always be preemptive in making a move before the guy costs us more games.
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