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2017-05-19: Brewers (Espino/MLB debut) at Cubs (Butler) 1:20 PM CDT [Brewers win, eventually, 6-3]

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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:22 PM Post
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homer said:
It'd be great if Brewers could burn through the Cubs' pen in this game. Butler's at 35 pitches after the Bandy hit.

90 pitches through three... love it


And it is the pitchers fault for the most part. Self inflicted wound.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:23 PM Post
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Wow Broxton. What the hell, man?


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:23 PM Post
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Two hands in the wind Broxton


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:24 PM Post
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Wow. 2 hands guys. Grow up.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:25 PM Post
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Well that's something you don't see very often.


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Broxton is a below average MLB CF, you may convince me is more or less average. But I always see and hear the media glowing like he's one of the best or something.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:28 PM Post
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Espino looks shook after that error.


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Just a bad unforced error lets the Cubs right back in it. You can't drop a routine can of corn flyball.


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Broxton is a below average MLB CF, you may convince me is more or less average. But I always see and hear the media glowing like he's one of the best or something.


Almost all of Broxton's value comes from his defense. I'm not sure what you are talking about... is this just based on your eye test?


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:29 PM Post
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FVBrewerFan said:
Broxton is a below average MLB CF, you may convince me is more or less average. But I always see and hear the media glowing like he's one of the best or something.


This is just not true. His range and instincts are among the elite which is a huge benefit in CF. I'll grant that he hasn't been particularly good so far this year, but he was great last season.

That was a terrible error, but he's generally a well above average defender.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:30 PM Post
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Espino is not impressive at all. Normal conditions the Cubs would legitimately have 3 homers off of him.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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Another 1 that would have been gone


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Stopped the bleeding, we'll take it. Now we need more runs.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:33 PM Post
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Espino is not impressive at all. Normal conditions the Cubs would legitimately have 3 homers off of him.


I have no idea if he's right, but Kerry Wood opined that Espino could be challenging hitters knowing that it will be hard to get a ball out of the yard. Who knows, really.


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Maybe that's part of the game plan - Counsell notes the wind is blowing hard in, so he tells Espino and Bandy to pitch to contact and don't worry about getting the ball up.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:34 PM Post
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FVBrewerFan said:
Broxton is a below average MLB CF, you may convince me is more or less average. But I always see and hear the media glowing like he's one of the best or something.



The statcast catch probability metrics have him in the top 10.


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It's so hilarious watching professional major league baseball players turn into giant babies over bat flips.


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:35 PM Post
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dlk9s said:
trwi7 said:
Espino is not impressive at all. Normal conditions the Cubs would legitimately have 3 homers off of him.


I have no idea if he's right, but Kerry Wood opined that Espino could be challenging hitters knowing that it will be hard to get a ball out of the yard. Who knows, really.


That's probably true but his stuff isn't any good either. It's not like he's challenging then with 95. He's challenging them with 89-91.

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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:36 PM Post
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Does a slide get you into 1st faster, or is it just instinct with these guys sometimes ?


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Posted: May 19, 2017, 1:37 PM Post
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Counsell needs to put on Mythbusters when the check the faster to run through the base. Never ever slide into 1st unless the throw takes the fielder off the base and you have to slide to avoid him.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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