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2017-07-02: Marlins (Straily) at Brewers (Guerra) 1:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 10-3]

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Posted: July 02, 2017, 1:52 PM Post
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So if we are so strapped for starters that we are going to start 1 of our bullpen guys tomorrow what chance do we have of replacing Guerra?

This starting staff is a joke outside of Nelson and Anderson.....now without Anderson.......


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 1:52 PM Post
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As rough as it is trying to fill one rotation spot, guess we'll have to choose two between Espino, Jungmann, Blazek. Don't see how you can put Guerra out there without figuring out his issues first.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 1:55 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
This starting staff is a joke outside of Nelson and Anderson.....now without Anderson.......


False. Matt Garza has been perfectly serviceable. Davies/Guerra both have been terrible though.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 1:56 PM Post
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He's out. Let's go


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Four-plus innings for Guerra. For the first time in his career, his four-seam FB averaged < 91.3 mph. It was 89.7 mph today.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 2:00 PM Post
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stoutdude04 said:
I would imagine...yes.

For Guerra does it just call the pitches cookies?


They didn't go quite that far, but they had him at 88-89 a LOT more than 90+


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 2:03 PM Post
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Arcia stays hot and Villar stays cold.... Wonder how he feels about turning down the extension now. We are getting past the point of "struggling" to start the year and into the area of you are now a bench player... and not a good one.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 2:06 PM Post
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Nice to have depth in AAA and AA. Throw one in, doesn't work, throw another. Someone will catch the ring and run with it.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 2:17 PM Post
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Time to turn this crapfest off.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 2:18 PM Post
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I know Brian and Bill say otherwise because they're stupid but Thames is a really awful defender.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 2:18 PM Post
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Have our fans always been this finicky? Is it simply amplified because we are winning a bit this year? Fan bases complain... I get it and as a Packers fan I've always rolled my eyes at how entitled some fans have been towards that team in the last decade + ... however it seems to be on a new level this year with the Crew.

Broxton goes on a 2+ week barrage and hits like 8 HRs .. now he has a couple off games and fans want him benched.
Villar is the worst human in the world.
Our bullpen is a joke out side of 2 guys as is our starting pitching staff (while we are actually 12th in the league in ERA).
Thames needs a day off.
Counsell doesn't smile enough.
Bernie's costume needs cleaning.
Up until a month ago Santana needed to be traded.
Brinson is over matched and no longer our top prospect.

I'm not mad at anyone, you are all entitled to enjoy the game however you do..

But man do we complain a lot.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 2:19 PM Post
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As ugly as this is, we are only down two. That's nothing with this offense.


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Expectations have ramped up due to the teams record. That should be expected no?


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I'm assuming that is in response to me... and no. My answer would be no. This team was suppose to be historically bad and their pitching has outperformed its expectations, but now that they have we should raise our expectations further? Shaw is hitting .290+ and hitting for power so should we now expect him to be a .300 hitter in the second half?

Again, I'm not upset... it is just a mindset that is foreign to me is all.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 3:19 PM Post
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Really can't figure out who's worse between Guerra and Espino.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 3:29 PM Post
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Pitching back to being frustrating today. The Cubs have already won.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 3:33 PM Post
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You wonder if Espino is getting DFA'd after the game. Just not a major league pitcher and we might need a 40 man spot for a starter tomorrow.

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Posted: July 02, 2017, 4:09 PM Post
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Suter starting tomorrow....somebody else coming up

Brewers official tweet

RHP Paolo Espino has been optioned to Triple-A @skysox. Corresponding move to be announced tomorrow.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 4:37 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
Suter starting tomorrow....somebody else coming up

Brewers official tweet

RHP Paolo Espino has been optioned to Triple-A @skysox. Corresponding move to be announced tomorrow.


Have to think it's Jungmann though why you don't start him if that's who's coming up is beyond me. He's at least had a couple months of success in the big leagues as a starter. If he could replicate that, they can survive Anderson's loss.


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Posted: July 02, 2017, 4:39 PM Post
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agree with live for october.


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