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2017-07-22: Brewers (Suter) at Phillies (Hellickson) 6:05 PM CDT [Brewers win, 9-8]

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Posted: July 22, 2017, 8:55 PM Post
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A win is a win is a win, right?


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 8:55 PM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
You don't bunt in that situation. You play for a big inning. Knebel won't hold a one run lead.


Hope you weren't in Vegas

Great job Corey


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 8:56 PM Post
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The streak is snapped. Gonna need another bottle of Rolaids, though.


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JohnBriggs12 said:
You don't bunt in that situation. You play for a big inning. Knebel won't hold a one run lead.


https://www.mlb.com/gameday/brewers-vs- ... ame=491553


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 8:57 PM Post
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Just how you draw it up...


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 8:58 PM Post
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ReverendBrewmeister said:
The streak is snapped. Gonna need another bottle of Rolaids, though.


Yeah that's exactly right. Good sharp outing for corey... thank god the bleeding stopped for a night.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 8:59 PM Post
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So glad they made it an exciting 9-8 victory instead a boring 8-1 win. But im glad the losing streak is over. Lets start a nice long winning streak now.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:00 PM Post
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Only crappy thing is Suter deserved a win.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:00 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
You don't bunt in that situation. You play for a big inning. Knebel won't hold a one run lead.


Hope you weren't in Vegas

Great job Corey


Yeah while JohnBriggs12's post is silly as usual I agree that the bunt is a bad idea. Giving away an out for a small chance to score a run on a BIP just isn't worth it. I don't really see how the run expectancy was increased by bunting in that situation.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:00 PM Post
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Honest question. What does Auggie think a breckabawl is? Seems literally any pitch other than a 4 seam FB? Change, slider, curve, vutter...Ive heard him call of them breckabawl.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:00 PM Post
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WINNER WINNER BRATS FOR DINNER


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:08 PM Post
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Suter deserved to PITCH the 7th inning if not more! That Bullpen sucks and it was the main culprit for the losing streak.

I should be happy they won but I am not. I am totally ticked off. Why was the pitching coach not out there with Barnes in the 8th inning when the 2nd man reached? Good grief.

5 1/2 game lead gone in one week. And now the Brewers have 3 teams breathing down their necks. Unreal.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:09 PM Post
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MrTPlush said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
You don't bunt in that situation. You play for a big inning. Knebel won't hold a one run lead.


https://www.mlb.com/gameday/brewers-vs- ... ame=491553


There are years worth of data and many studies that pretty much prove that except for some very limited situations (not this one), sac bunting is dumb. Your odds of scoring a single run with a man on 3rd and 1 out is minisculy better, if better at all, than with a runner on 2nd and nobody out. Your odds of scoring multiple runs are diminished. All for a play that even has to be executed first before getting the opportunity, and execution rates have also gone down over the years.

This isn't an emotional reaction based on the game. Its fairly scientific. Outs are just too precious to give away freely.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:10 PM Post
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To be fair that 5.5 game lead was really built in one and a half weeks too. They were like 1 game up before they suddenly went 8-2 to finish out the first half.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:12 PM Post
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I'm just thankful the Phillies put on a little league show for us after walking Braun, otherwise this game would have been like stepping on a rake.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:13 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
MrTPlush said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
You don't bunt in that situation. You play for a big inning. Knebel won't hold a one run lead.


https://www.mlb.com/gameday/brewers-vs- ... ame=491553


There are years worth of data and many studies that pretty much prove that except for some very limited situations (not this one), sac bunting is dumb. Your odds of scoring a single run with a man on 3rd and 1 out is minisculy better, if better at all, than with a runner on 2nd and nobody out. Your odds of scoring multiple runs are diminished. All for a play that even has to be executed first before getting the opportunity, and execution rates have also gone down over the years.

This isn't an emotional reaction based on the game. Its fairly scientific. Outs are just too precious to give away freely.


Our runner on 2nd is slow. Our 3rd base coach is ed sedar. I think that shatters your analytics. Sorry.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:13 PM Post
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MoreTrife said:
Odds knebel blows it? 2-1?


Odds >50% of comments in an IGT can actually be positive. 100000000-1?


Yes because blowing a 8-1 lead just makes people feel warm and fuzzy inside.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:15 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
Only crappy thing is Suter deserved a win.


Good call. He should've stayed in. Results wouldn't have been worse.


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:16 PM Post
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Late to the party...anyone still asking for Barnes to be closer...or do we realize relievers give up runs?


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Posted: July 22, 2017, 9:17 PM Post
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MoreTrife said:
Brew4U said:
Only crappy thing is Suter deserved a win.


Good call. He should've stayed in. Results wouldn't have been worse.


Or we could have put in hughes or blazek after the rupp walk. Apparently hader and blazek are newer so they have to earn their way past drake scahill and torres. Story of the week.


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