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2018-05-23: Diamondbacks (Godley) at Brewers (Suter) 12:40 PM CDT [Brewers win, 9-2]

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Posted: May 23, 2018, 1:32 PM Post
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wildcat83 said:
Looked ahead to the Mets series. Four game set and we miss DeGrom who throws today, so that worked out well. The only Mets starter who really is an imposing figure is Syndegaard.

Who's pitching for us against him?

"You're not going to have him when you want him and you're going to run out of games. He can't pitch 90 games. It's just not going to work. If anyone thinks it's going to work, show me how."- Craig Counsell on Josh Hader.


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Posted: May 23, 2018, 1:33 PM Post
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I really do not like Suter as an SP. If he was our long relief guy or spot starter I'd be OK with it, but I do not like him as a starter at all. The "he just got them out!" wears me down. I don't want 5-ERA guys in our rotation. There is no reason for it when our starters usually go 5 innings.


Suter is at 4.02 ERA as a starter when combining 2017 and 2018.

Edit: Exactly 4.00 ERA now that the book is closed today.

A little cherry picking leaving out 2016. However, I still think it is reasonable to say that I would rather have him as a reliever, his ERA is under 2 when relieving. With the game changing I guess it doesn't matter that much if he never goes beyond 5 innings but I'm sure hoping a Burnes/Peralta/Woodruff steps up and replaces him in the rotation this year or next.


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Posted: May 23, 2018, 1:33 PM Post
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This would be a great time to let Logan throw 30-35 pitches over 1-2 innings and hopefully work through command issues. He's getting too much hate, he still shows good stuff...struggling with location. I suspect we'll see a combination of Logan/Williams/Lopez today.



I forgot that he was still up....


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PinaMadness said:
wildcat83 said:
Looked ahead to the Mets series. Four game set and we miss DeGrom who throws today, so that worked out well. The only Mets starter who really is an imposing figure is Syndegaard.

Who's pitching for us against him?


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Its weird to me that Suter is a good reliever because in his starts everything he gives up is usually in the first 2 innings this year.


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wildcat83 said:
Its weird to me that Suter is a good reliever because in his starts everything he gives up is usually in the first 2 innings this year.


Perhaps it's because he is coming in and immediately throwing different stuff than what hitters are used to from the team's other pitchers?


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Come on KC... pull that one out for us will ya!?


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Saladino with the thump in the bat.


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Saladino has just requested to be traded to 'whoever is playing Arizona'.


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Outlander said:
Roderick said:
OldSchoolSnapper said:

I really do not like Suter as an SP. If he was our long relief guy or spot starter I'd be OK with it, but I do not like him as a starter at all. The "he just got them out!" wears me down. I don't want 5-ERA guys in our rotation. There is no reason for it when our starters usually go 5 innings.


Suter is at 4.02 ERA as a starter when combining 2017 and 2018.

Edit: Exactly 4.00 ERA now that the book is closed today.

A little cherry picking leaving out 2016. However, I still think it is reasonable to say that I would rather have him as a reliever, his ERA is under 2 when relieving. With the game changing I guess it doesn't matter that much if he never goes beyond 5 innings but I'm sure hoping a Burnes/Peralta/Woodruff steps up and replaces him in the rotation this year or next.


I guess I would say, that using his rookie month+ of work from 2016 would be cherry picking stats. But each to their own.


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SALADINOMITE


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Woodruff sans beard needs to worry about the truant officer reporting him to his High School!


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Extras at Busch. Come on KC!


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Nice solid inning of work from Woodruff. He needed that.


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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
wildcat83 said:
Its weird to me that Suter is a good reliever because in his starts everything he gives up is usually in the first 2 innings this year.


Perhaps it's because he is coming in and immediately throwing different stuff than what hitters are used to from the team's other pitchers?


I have been skeptical of Suter as a starter (while always believing he can be a useful MLB pitcher), but he has proven me wrong consistently.

How about I remain skeptical and hope he keeps making me look like a fool?


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A win that doesn’t involve Hader, Knebel, or Jeffress pitching essentially counts as 1.2 wins.


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Cool Hand Lucroy said:
Joey Meyer Bombs said:
wildcat83 said:
Its weird to me that Suter is a good reliever because in his starts everything he gives up is usually in the first 2 innings this year.


Perhaps it's because he is coming in and immediately throwing different stuff than what hitters are used to from the team's other pitchers?


I have been skeptical of Suter as a starter (while always believing he can be a useful MLB pitcher), but he has proven me wrong consistently.

How about I remain skeptical and hope he keeps making me look like a fool?



Same boat... I just... I don't know... it feels like he's always on the verge of imploding. Then always makes me look like an idiot! This team may be special... when the guys we pin to the wall either get replaced or demoted.... and the ones we pick on next start producing. I think thats the making of a special team.

I've been a die hard Brewers fan my whole life... back to the late 80s... so believe me... I've seen some things. haha.


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also KC hanging a crooked number on STL in top 10


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Woodruff pumping it in there at 97. I have to admit, having so many guys who throw gas is fun.


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If the season ended right now, the Brewers would have HFA throughout the NL playoffs.

"You're not going to have him when you want him and you're going to run out of games. He can't pitch 90 games. It's just not going to work. If anyone thinks it's going to work, show me how."- Craig Counsell on Josh Hader.


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