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2018-05-24: Mets (Matz) at Brewers (Davies) 7:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 5-0]

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Posted: May 24, 2018, 7:34 PM Post
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Miller Park Davies.


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Davies not very good at all tonight... .hopefully just rusty.

Seems like 3 might be enough tonight


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We can't afford to fall behind any further than three. It's imperative to win this game because beating Syndergaard tomorrow is not very likely.


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We are making Matz, who has sucked all season, look like an ace...


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It's not imperative......it's May.


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Posted: May 24, 2018, 7:42 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
It's not imperative......it's May.



Yeah, the phrase "house money" was made for the crew right now. Sure we'd like to win every game, but we're simply not going to!


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Posted: May 24, 2018, 7:48 PM Post
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3 runs doesn't even seem that bad considering how hard the Mets pounded the ball that inning


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Posted: May 24, 2018, 7:49 PM Post
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What happened to Aguilar getting an occasional start at 3rd? Then Santana could have hit 5th instead of Perez.


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What happened to Aguilar getting an occasional start at 3rd? Then Santana could have hit 5th instead of Perez.


But how is Perez going to be a solid bench player if he doesnt start all the time?


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Boy that Braun contract is going to be fun. Hopefully they'll have the balls to bench him at some point.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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[laughing]


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Or he'll start hitting again.........


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Better chance of hair growing on my head


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Posted: May 24, 2018, 8:33 PM Post
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Boy that Braun contract is going to be fun. Hopefully they'll have the balls to bench him at some point.


I think we all get it, that Braun's last few years of his contract will likely pay him more than what his production will deserve...try to look at it from the standpoint of how much excess value the brewers got from Braun compared to the earlier dollars per year this contract paid him. Braun made $5mil the year he won an mvp right after he inked this current deal, and $7mil in 2012, when he arguably had a better offensive season. He didn't start earning $20 million per year until 2016, and the next two years will see that salary actually decrease back down towards $15 million.

People are talking with confidence that some free agent hitters are going to approach 40 million a season starting in 2019 that would carry the through the same ages the brewers got brauns prime at about $8 million per season on average.


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Fear The Chorizo said:
trwi7 said:
Boy that Braun contract is going to be fun. Hopefully they'll have the balls to bench him at some point.


I think we all get it, that Braun's last few years of his contract will likely pay him more than what his production will deserve...try to look at it from the standpoint of how much excess value the brewers got from Braun compared to the earlier dollars per year this contract paid him. Braun made $5mil the year he won an mvp right after he inked this current deal, and $7mil in 2012, when he arguably had a better offensive season. He didn't start earning $20 million per year until 2016, and the next two years will see that salary actually decrease back down towards $15 million.

People are talking with confidence that some free agent hitters are going to approach 40 million a season starting in 2019 that would carry the through the same ages the brewers got brauns prime at about $8 million per season on average.


Sorry, Braun being worth way more than his contract 5-6 years ago doesn't make me feel better about being hamstrung by a bad deal for a bad player now. They didn't HAVE to give him a bad 2nd deal. They could have rode out the good deal and walked away after 2015.

Carlos Gomez was worth way more than his contract when he was here, that wouldn't make it any more enjoyable if he was here making $20M a season to put up the numbers he is putting up now.


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So are we up to best record in franchise history and most shutouts?


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Best record in brewer history through 51 games yet have been shut out 9 times already.........


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Posted: May 24, 2018, 9:11 PM Post
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They should make Perez clean up all the dog poop in Miller Park after the game


I’m sorry but this wins the day. Brewers played like crap today and this sums it up. [laughing]


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Posted: May 24, 2018, 9:13 PM Post
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I don't understand the relationship between Orlando Arcia and the hitting coach. Is it they refuse to sit together and watch film?? Is it that the concept of plate discipline is a subject they are not comfortable discussing?? How can you watch this kid hit and not be able to explain you cannot hit with your back leg flying towards third base? I don't get what is happening. If he is uncoachable send him down. You cannot keep watching this. He is not turning this around unless they start with these basics.


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Posted: May 24, 2018, 9:13 PM Post
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Fear The Chorizo said:
trwi7 said:
Boy that Braun contract is going to be fun. Hopefully they'll have the balls to bench him at some point.


I think we all get it, that Braun's last few years of his contract will likely pay him more than what his production will deserve...try to look at it from the standpoint of how much excess value the brewers got from Braun compared to the earlier dollars per year this contract paid him. Braun made $5mil the year he won an mvp right after he inked this current deal, and $7mil in 2012, when he arguably had a better offensive season. He didn't start earning $20 million per year until 2016, and the next two years will see that salary actually decrease back down towards $15 million.

People are talking with confidence that some free agent hitters are going to approach 40 million a season starting in 2019 that would carry the through the same ages the brewers got brauns prime at about $8 million per season on average.


Sorry, Braun being worth way more than his contract 5-6 years ago doesn't make me feel better about being hamstrung by a bad deal for a bad player now. They didn't HAVE to give him a bad 2nd deal. They could have rode out the good deal and walked away after 2015.

Carlos Gomez was worth way more than his contract when he was here, that wouldn't make it any more enjoyable if he was here making $20M a season to put up the numbers he is putting up now.


Braun clearly screwed himself, and pretty much deserves the vitriol he receives.

Still, in this day and age of free agency there is something to be said for an MVP caliber SoCal/Miami guy who was not only willing to stay in Milwaukee for his entire career, but actively tried to make that happen--and it looks like he will. It is rare. I will applaud Braun for that and hope that he contributes to a World Series Champion in a Brewer uniform--the same one he wore when he made his MLB debut.


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