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2018-06-02: Brewers (Chacín) at White Sox (Shields) 1:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 5-0]

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xisxisxis said:
some managers let their SP actually get past 80 pitches. It saves having to have 15 RP a year to make up all the innings...


If only we could manage our pen more like the White Sox.



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"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Unless this inning gets really crazy, hader should pitch the 8th, then pickareliever for the 9th.


No need to use Hader anymore today at all.


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Posted: June 02, 2018, 2:31 PM Post
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With the off day Thursday you’d think they’d want hader to get two days off anyway. Give him another Craig!


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Fear The Chorizo said:
Unless this inning gets really crazy, hader should pitch the 8th, then pickareliever for the 9th.

I've been on the Hader love bandwagon more than anyone, but I would rather see him pitch only one inning and have more appearances than have him go multi innings and sit the next two games, especially with the bullpen we have now, including two other guys capable of closing games in JJ and Knebel.


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Potentially Hader could still be available tomorrow if needed by pulling him now. Good call.


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If only we could manage our pen more like the White Sox.

Glad you could catch up on last nights game... yep they shut the brewers down...

Today, I agree that Shields should have been pulled after 7 innings, but what do I know, I don't have magic hands...


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This home plate umpire. He's had a wide strike zone all game long and then calls strike three a ball?


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I know its been mentioned by others in this thread, but man I wish we would wear these uniforms more often.


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xisxisxis said:
If only we could manage our pen more like the White Sox.

Glad you could catch up on last nights game... yep they shut the brewers down...

Today, I agree that Shields should have been pulled after 7 innings, but what do I know, I don't have magic hands...


Congrats to them. I'll take our overall body of work over theirs.

Point being, short starts are clearly an organizational philosophy, we can see that by now. And it's worked very well.


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If he can improve his command there's a chance Taylor Williams could be another major weapon in this pen by the end of the season.


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this pitcher's a bummer

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Jonathan Villar doing just about everything today.


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Congrats to them. I'll take our overall body of work over theirs.

If you think that's management and not talent, good luck...


Point being, short starts are clearly an organizational philosophy, we can see that by now. And it's worked very well.


And I will continue to point out that short starts for the sake of short starts is absolutely stupid. Counsell always errs on the side of yanking a starter even when he is pitching just fine. Chacin had a boatload of quality starts last year (i.e. >= 6IP and 3 or less runs), but he gets yanked first baserunner in the sixth, repeatedly. Absolutely silly... And when the bullpen is shot in August and September, I won't be hear to say I told you so, because that's not allowed here... heaven forbid....


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I fully expect Sogard to start over Villar tomorrow.


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Aguilar is now top 10 in OPS in all of MLB

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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xisxisxis said:
Congrats to them. I'll take our overall body of work over theirs.

If you think that's management and not talent, good luck...


Point being, short starts are clearly an organizational philosophy, we can see that by now. And it's worked very well.


And I will continue to point out that short starts for the sake of short starts is absolutely stupid. Counsell always errs on the side of yanking a starter even when he is pitching just fine. Chacin had a boatload of quality starts last year (i.e. >= 6IP and 3 or less runs), but he gets yanked first baserunner in the sixth, repeatedly. Absolutely silly... And when the bullpen is shot in August and September, I won't be hear to say I told you so, because that's not allowed here... heaven forbid....


I here you


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Posted: June 02, 2018, 2:48 PM Post
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Wonder what happens first:

Villar gets his OPS to .750

or

Arcia drops his OPS under .500


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xisxisxis said:
Congrats to them. I'll take our overall body of work over theirs.

If you think that's management and not talent, good luck...


Point being, short starts are clearly an organizational philosophy, we can see that by now. And it's worked very well.


And I will continue to point out that short starts for the sake of short starts is absolutely stupid. Counsell always errs on the side of yanking a starter even when he is pitching just fine. Chacin had a boatload of quality starts last year (i.e. >= 6IP and 3 or less runs), but he gets yanked first baserunner in the sixth, repeatedly. Absolutely silly... And when the bullpen is shot in August and September, I won't be hear to say I told you so, because that's not allowed here... heaven forbid....



I'm not sure it's just for the sake of short starts. I'm guessing Chacin has issues when he gets to the third/fourth time through the lineup.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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I like even-numbered year Villar and even-numbered year Guerra more than the odd-numbered year versions.


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Iat's JJ time.

LOL at CC running for the phone like he's expecting a call from a hot girl.


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