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2018-07-13: Brewers (Guerra) at Pirates (Kingham) 6:05 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 7-3]

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Posted: July 13, 2018, 7:29 PM Post
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Aguilar with a few Ks chases balls so far, time to show his MVP credentials


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crap.


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Seems to be how it goes for us lately, just can't get that last big hit when we need it.


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This is why there’s “no luv 4 da crw “ as the one topic suggested

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Posted: July 13, 2018, 7:35 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
Nice outing for Woodruff. I can't understand why this guy can't get a chance. He's young, he was a top 100 prospect, he has good stuff, he's done fantastic for the Sky Sox this year. It's not like his MLB numbers are a disaster, and it's not like there are 5 better options keeping him back.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but it seems like something strange is going on with Woodruff. Maybe they really did just want to get him a break, but I am not sure it made sense to continue with that plan based on the needs at the MLB level during that period.


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Posted: July 13, 2018, 7:38 PM Post
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trwi7 said:
Yelich is like Geoff Jenkins. I have no idea why he's revered on here.


Here are 2 players from the start of their career (age 21 season) through their age 26 season;

752 G 899 H 60 HR 189 SB .292/.349/.421/.770 23.9 WAR

721 G 806 H 70 HR 84 SB .290/.368/.435/.803 21.0 WAR



The top one is Paul Molitor, the bottom one is Christian Yelich with half of this season still to play.


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Not to send this thread into deeper despair, but the Brewers have moved into the bottom five in terms of offensive strikeouts per game. They are averaging 9.18 strikeouts per 9 innings, the only teams that are worse are the Padres, Rangers, Phillies, and White Sox.


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Posted: July 13, 2018, 7:43 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
Nice outing for Woodruff. I can't understand why this guy can't get a chance. He's young, he was a top 100 prospect, he has good stuff, he's done fantastic for the Sky Sox this year. It's not like his MLB numbers are a disaster, and it's not like there are 5 better options keeping him back.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but it seems like something strange is going on with Woodruff. Maybe they really did just want to get him a break, but I am not sure it made sense to continue with that plan based on the needs at the MLB level during that period.


Now would certainly be a wonderful time for him to force the organization's hand with more outings like that to stay up here.


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Been pretty disappointed with how Barmes has progressed. When he first came up in 2016, looking at his stuff, he looked like our closer by 2018. Just hasn't happened. Prone to big innings and walks, just can't seem to get over that hump of mediocrity. Not bad, but not good either.


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Posted: July 13, 2018, 7:47 PM Post
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trwi7 said:
MoreTrife said:
They just aren't a good offense outside of Aguilar and yelich.


Yelich is like Geoff Jenkins. I have no idea why he's revered on here.


That's a big insult to Jenkins's arm.


True. And his power.

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Posted: July 13, 2018, 7:48 PM Post
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trwi7 said:
Yelich is like Geoff Jenkins. I have no idea why he's revered on here.


Here are 2 players from the start of their career (age 21 season) through their age 26 season;

752 G 899 H 60 HR 189 SB .292/.349/.421/.770 23.9 WAR

721 G 806 H 70 HR 84 SB .290/.368/.435/.803 21.0 WAR



The top one is Paul Molitor, the bottom one is Christian Yelich with half of this season still to play.


And Paul Molitor up to that point wasn’t an elite hitter. Wildly inconsistent from year to year actually. He didn’t become elite consistently until he was like 30.

I could probably find an awful lot of players that weren’t super special with similar stats through their first 6 years or so. Unless you saw into the future and saw Yelich is also destined to become elite after 30 years old, which would be meaningless for us. I could probably count those type of players on a few hands though.

I like Yelich a lot, but yah he isn’t an elite player. We paid a premium for control of a borderline All Star type guy.


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adambr2 said:
Been pretty disappointed with how Barmes has progressed. When he first came up in 2016, looking at his stuff, he looked like our closer by 2018. Just hasn't happened. Prone to big innings and walks, just can't seem to get over that hump of mediocrity. Not bad, but not good either.

I tend to think his range of possible outcomes moving forward remains as wide as any current member of the Brewers bullpen. I can picture a scenario where it all comes together for him and he is a shutdown reliever, and I could also see him drifting off into late inning mediocrity.


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I'm one of the people who has called for Nottingham to get a shot, but the guy really seems to have a hole in his bat on some really hittable pitches.


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topper09er said:
trwi7 said:
Yelich is like Geoff Jenkins. I have no idea why he's revered on here.


Here are 2 players from the start of their career (age 21 season) through their age 26 season;

752 G 899 H 60 HR 189 SB .292/.349/.421/.770 23.9 WAR

721 G 806 H 70 HR 84 SB .290/.368/.435/.803 21.0 WAR



The top one is Paul Molitor, the bottom one is Christian Yelich with half of this season still to play.


Give Jenkins some credit. He had a .284/.345/.520/.865 line with 84 homers through age 26, although only in 459 games.


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Bad starting pitching, bad hitting. Just bad baseball. Not very much fun to watch right now.


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Best challenge ever, especially after they challenged that play at third.


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MrTPlush said:
Best challenge ever, especially after they challenged that play at third.


I don't even think he wanted to, to the umpire's credit I think they checked it themselves just to make sure. Why not. Maybe a foot came off or something, you don't want a game to end on a missed call. In the end clearly out but didn't hurt to look.


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Molitor was great, Jenkins was good, Yelich is really good.

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adambr2 said:
MrTPlush said:
Best challenge ever, especially after they challenged that play at third.


I don't even think he wanted to, to the umpire's credit I think they checked it themselves just to make sure. Why not. Maybe a foot came off or something, you don't want a game to end on a missed call. In the end clearly out but didn't hurt to look.


I wonder if they did it because Counsell originally said yes? Not sure you can change your mind.


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Posted: July 13, 2018, 8:55 PM Post
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For me, the pessimism, skepticism, cynicism, or whatever you want to call it when it comes to the Brewers is definitely a result of seeing so many precious good starts eventually and seemingly inevitably fall apart. Some of those years go all the way back to the 70’s.


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